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    when painting candy apple red i believe most people use a gold base, but sometimes people will use silver base. my question is what different effect would the silver base give to paint job? is it a very noticable difference?
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    I slightly different color overall.

    Are you talking about a street car?

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    The hot rod shop I work in painted a gto candy red with a silver base coat. Stunning paint and it looks great.It is what the customer wanted. I will let Hotrodpaint chime back in on this one.He asked you if it was a street car for a reason. Lots of money to fix rock chips and match the paint.

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    A gold Base under Kandy red gives a darker tone /tint , a sliver base gives a brighter tinted red and bit more vibrant ( and depends on how many coats are applied too ) , I use a high metallc charcoal under my kandies as I like the look better , a bit darker then silver but not as muddy looking as a gold base IMHO .
    YOu can use a pearl white base , or a pearl black base , heck I have shot it over a Bright Metallic red before , gives it a nice look also .
    There really is no standard color , but Gold & Silver are most commonly used .

    Go to a local paint jobber that sells kandies and see if they have a kandy color chart to look at , as they usually have several kandy colors shot over different bases , look at it in the sun and you will see the differences .

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    hotrodpaint- the car will be a weekend cruiser for the most part. if i paint it candy apple i know i will want to put the car in a bubble in my garage and never take it out, but i will slowly learn to deal with chips.

    i have been trying to convince myself i like some of the metallic maroon colors that are coming out on new cars, but none of them have the same pop as a true candy color. i would like the car a dark shade of candy apple so maybe i would want a gold base. the reason i ask is i saw a mopar painted candy apple with a silver base and it was dark, but it was also a little overcast out so i knew that was part of it. is there a way to make it much darker than a normal shade or does anyone have a dark red candy color?
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    There are LOTS of candy "red" colors. We do the basic red w/silver base or gold base as mentioned quite abit. There are also "brandywine" colors that are a darker red. If you look at the House Of Kolor charts, you can put candies over ANY color to achieve different colors with one top color. I did a job awhile back that had me put candy red over a green base, made a "brick red" (real dark) color. I have used candy red over a blue base to make a purple... see where this is going?? Best bet...find what you like and use it! Unless like where I think Hotrod was going...if you are going to drive it alot, plan on living with chips or don't go candy!
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    I was just going to point out the expense and difficulty of repairing candy paint. On a street car, I would use a base color similar to the top coat, which would help, but does not make anything near "easy" to repair.

    I did graphics on a candy Dodge Magnum wagon recently. They use a red metallic base, with red candy on top. He got a dent in the hood, and took it to the dealership to repair. To get it to match, they ended up repainting the entire front end, at $1800.

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    being a painter i can easily touch it up myself but like mechanics who can build their own engine better than me we arent always in the same boat haha but chips are easier to make look invisible than metallics and pearls by just filling them in with some un thinned candy in a touch up brush. the darkness of the colour with candies also depends on the amount of coats you put on. if youre going over 4 coats of candy catalyse it with catalised base coat mode when thinning it otherwise itl stay soft for ages and will chip easy, theres alot of solvents there in the film build of a candy job to get trapped under the clear. my car in the pic to the left is 8 coats of ppg radiance wineberry over pure gold base with the tiniest hint of prismatique in the 3rd and 6th coats. wineberry is pinkier than sunset or candy apple red when put over silver but looks better over gold IMO
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    So here is a comment about Candy Apple Red and Base coats. There is a difference between Candy's and Base Coat Candy's. I got really GREAT results by painting a Candy Apple Red Basecoat over a Black base coat. MAN, is that a deep color and something that is not seen every day.

    I'm currently experimenting mixing colors for my wifes car. Right now I'm playing with a Black Pearl 50% mixed with a Cobolt Blue basecoat 50%. We are trying to get to a very deep sapphire blue color.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MRJB1929 View Post
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    I'm currently experimenting mixing colors for my wifes car. Right now I'm playing with a Black Pearl 50% mixed with a Cobolt Blue basecoat 50%. We are trying to get to a very deep sapphire blue color.
    When you find that right mix let me know...I want to attempt a slightly darker blue
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