Looking for a two stage "black Cherry"?

[HOTRODPAINT]

I have a '38 Dodge panel to paint, so it needs to be done apart. I am looking for a black with strong red overtones. I've used the old Cadillac color, but that is too brownish. I've also a 3-stage red candy over black pearl, but that's too hard to match or spot repair. I would like to find a nice 2-stage production color.

Ideas?

[Brigrat]

I assume you have already thought of House Of Colors and ruled them out? Lon

[HOTRODPAINT]

I know I can get a dramatic result with a 3-stage, like HOK, but if this thing gets damaged, (a full fendred street rod) I am the "poor sucker" who will have to fix it!

If I can't find a suitable 2-stage color, I will run over to the paint store and look at the X-otic offerings.

Xotic actually makes more products, and they were the chemists for HOK until it sold.

[Brigrat]

I tell my customers to drive around high end new car, truck, SUV lot's to see if they find a color that pleases them. Yes, it's time consuming but gives you a better idea of what a real vehicle will look like over just viewing a paint chip. When found just take the paint code into your favorite paint mixer. Some very nice colors on motorcycles also but it takes a bit of doing to get more than a quart from a dealer at a decent price. I have seen alot of black cherry colors/shades lately on high end SUV'z, Cad's, etc. I know YOU know all this, just posting for others that might want to start the hunt for a color. Lon

[HOTRODPAINT]

Good advise. I have offered that same solution to customers. You just can't tell from a colorchip what impact a subtle difference in shade will make until you see it outside on a car!

[stovens]

Hotrodpaint, (a bit of a highjack here, hope that's ok)I'm looking for a color close to one of these. I'd like to try and paint my truck myself! Any ideas to what the colors are and how hard they may be to paint? I figure to use a small panel to see if my techniques and supplies will look ok, before investing in large quantities!
http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/c...ovens/50_3.jpg
or
http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/c...ovens/48_1.jpg

[HOTRODPAINT]

Generally, darker colors and metallics will be harder, because the darker colors show light reflections more, and metallics offer more of a problem than solids for getting the color even.

If you plan on sanding and buffing, medium shades like this will look much better.

If you are not a great bodyman, avoid the dark colors, as they will magnify any flaws in the surface.

If you are a lousy bodyman...are unsure about your talent with a spraygun,... and don't have the patience to sand and buff....use light solid colors.

[stovens]

I will sand and buff, the darker red looked more solid and forgiving with body imperfections, the lighter one, has more of a depth to it, which I guessing would show even more flaws. Any ideas as to the name of those two reds, and thanks by the way!

[HOTRODPAINT]

Not close to any shades that I use regularly. There are probably many colors within that range. I would just go to some fleet charts from your favorite paint brand.

[maxxmuscle]

HotRod, I have a PPG code for what HD uses as their Black Cherry. I took a fender in and they scanned it and we came up with this. It was basically a perfect match. The Computer mix called it Dark Cherry. If you are interested, I can get the code off the label at the shop tomorrow and send it to you tomorrow evening...let me know. Donny

[HOTRODPAINT]

HotRod, I have a PPG code for what HD uses as their Black Cherry. I took a fender in and they scanned it and we came up with this. It was basically a perfect match. The Computer mix called it Dark Cherry. If you are interested, I can get the code off the label at the shop tomorrow and send it to you tomorrow evening...let me know. Donny

Donny, I would love to see it. I am trying to find something that gives me minimal problems matching parts that are painted seperately.....and of course the ability to deal with the occasional repair. Thanks. Jay

[37 Caddy]

We have been shopping around for a similar color. The best stock paint we have seen is Brandywine Mica. It is a Lexus color used on their SUV. I have no idea whether it is two-stage or not.

[HOTRODPAINT]

Thanks. I'll check it out. :-)

[maxxmuscle]

Jay, here are a couple pix where I used the black cherry I mentioned. I'll bring that PPG code home with me tomorrow. Donny

[HOTRODPAINT]

Nice color! I'll show it to the owner.