matrix paint?

[rod kent]

I am about to do my 33 with bc/cc and was asking in the paint store what they carry. Has anyone out there had experience with Matrix brand. I was looking a SP, but am not crazy about the mail order deal. thx, rod

[shine]

just did a 62 vette in matrix. will not make that mistake again. it is very brittle , chips easy, had dieback and shrinkage with the epoxy and primer. i use all spi now. you will not be disappointed with it. this 57 vette sat for 90 days before i buffed it. buffed like a dream and had 0 dieback or shrinkage. it has only spi epoxy/ppg s/s /spi uv clear (6 coats )

[rod kent]

Thanks so much for the advice Shine, you probably saved me a bunch of heartburn. I will go with SPI. Would it be foolish to use urethane ss on the frame and bc/cc on the body of the highboy. Should I use the bc/cc on both? thanks again

[shine]

i used ppg single stage for color on the vette and spi uv clear. it cost a little more but i cant consider cost when doing one of these. i just use what works for me. the ss for color does a good job of covering small things you may have missed. on black cars i use only single stage. clear does change the way paint looks.

[Itoldyouso]

Shine, could you elaborate more on the single stage, clear routine. Are you saying you use black enamel that would normally not be used with a clear, and then clear it? I thought you could only use BC with clear over it.

I'm getting somewhat close to painting my T black, and am interested in what you are saying.


Don

PS: Vette looks super BTW.

[shine]

i do not clear ss black. i use to use centari with a glamor pack . not available here anymore. on many solid colors i use ss only but reds and some others will change color when you cut and buff so i clear them. the 57 vette was a ppg ss with spi clear over it. if i were to do a black car today it would be done with spi ss . no clear.

[shoprat]

I also like the Black in ss better that cc/bc. Just finished my 57 Ranchero
with ppg dar 9000 ss. It's real black
Had to get the hardner and reducer in Arizona. I had the paint already
Ron

[shine]

dang how did i get behind. depth in paint is achieaved by clearity in the finish. the fewer distortions the deeper the look. black ss can be polished up to look 10 ft deep. i use ss for color before clear to help with the overall finish.

[rod kent]

Thanks Shine, I will take your advice when I paint the 33. Now for the novice question, after I finish with the ss, I would go over the car with 400 wet, then start with the clear? Thanks as always for the help, rod

[shine]

forget the clear ! put on plenty of ss black, sand 1000 down to 3000 and polish it. it will look miles deep. i only clear if it is red or some other color. sanding red ss and polishing will sometimes turn orange on you.

[rod kent]

thanks, someone else was going the ss black, I am planning on using spi viper red, but I take it that your suggestion would be the same, plenty of red and the buff/polish proceedure? thanks