Would like to consider building a paint room. Any one known what it would take? Or are their any kits for building one?
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Would like to consider building a paint room. Any one known what it would take? Or are their any kits for building one?
Are you talking about a new building, or converting an existing room, or garage?
Inclosing your paint to a smalller room , the fumes will be even more prodominate .
I have a mixing room next to my booth at work , and the door has to stay closed at all times , it has a fan that comes on when the lights are turned on , and it has a sprinkler system installed . All electric outlets need to be exlposion proof and OSHA approved ! A fire extinguisher on 2 walls .
You might take a read at this . May help shed some light .
http://www.epa.gov/dfe/pubs/auto/bp_mixing/
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I'm talking about some room I have in a 5 car garage, that I can section off and area for painting and try to have a half way acceptable looking job. Good information on the room for the paints. I don,t think at this time I would need a very large room for the paint, but understand about the exspolsion proof outlets and lite fitures, and exhaust.
I would staple or nail some clear plastic to the ceiling using tack strips, then lay out some 2X4s on the floor to staple the bottom to. The lights in the room would shine through the plastic, or you could set up some spotlights outside the booth. If you have a window in that area, set up an explosion-proof exhaust fan at one end, to suck the fumes and dust out, then put at least 4-6 furnace filters at the other end for incoming air. wet the floor, and blow it out real good, then spray.
If you intend to sand and buff the job, this is a more-than-adequate booth.
Should of said paint booth ;)
I have these at the shop , work great .
http://www.protools.ws/Shop%20Curtai...o_Gallery.html
If you do a google search for paint Prep Stations , you might get some ideas .
Or you can go the 2x2 wood route and clear sheet roll plastic .
Just depends on how elaborate you want and funds .
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when i was younger i did a lot of bikes . i turned a bedroom into a booth by hanging white sheets on the wall and cardboard on the floor. wet them down and you got a booth. of course the box fan in the window could have lit the place off. luck of the young i guess.
Thanks guys I have a better understanding of what it takes, and how far it can be taken.:3dSMILE:
Shine, Great minds think alike! I started in a utility room with a box fan! The lacquer fumes, combined with the beer between coats, made for a quite enjoyable experience. :-) I guess you use what ya got.
BTW, Does "shine" refer to moon "shine", or paint "shine"?
not sure where it came from. somewhere in the 60's but then i dont remember much of the 60's. kind of a big blurr. :)
ted , keep in mind that a paint booth can be used for many things if you dont paint a lot. great for bodywork if your shops clean or it makes a good clean room to build in. mine is built with metal studs and sheetrock.
Shine, thats just what I have in mine, something I can build myself.
Shine what is the demensions on that? My dad being a contractor and all would know how to build something like that easily. I would love to build me a room like that sometime in the next 5 years (when I am around 22-23). Also Darell, that site is good. I am guessing those are all the rules, regulations/laws we need to know to have and opperate a spray booth? I don't know how much it would be to build something like that with a mixer and gun cleaner, etc but I do know that labor would be pretty much free for me, just have to buy the materials. :D Costy huh?
here's a pic of what I got to spray in..
Here's another,, just going through all my pics trying to find a good one.
That is a pretty darn nice setup you have there. I am thinking that on the ceiling to make the angles come down instead of the straight up walls meeting a 90 degree angle with the ceiling and have that angle you know what I mean and in that angle put heads of lights to shine down and to the side. Like this... /
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That would be like one side of the wall to the angle and on top of the angle the striaght ceiling. So see what I mean now?
Yes that is a very good idea, I wish mine was that way.. that way the lights that go there will get good light on the roof and upper surfaces and also on the sides... just make sure you also put lights on the wall, you want to be able to see what your spraying at all times. don't need any dark spots in the booth,, mind has a few spots that don't get as good as light as others, but in a yr or so this booth is prob coming out and getting replaced with something a bit better.
Yeah. Any idea's on the size I will need to have a booth, way the structure or framing should be? If my dad were to build one then I am pretty sure he would just use wood framing and not metal like a lot of booths you see are. Only thing is I need some info on the ventilation like where to locate it at, how I can put one in myself and buy one (ie: what kind, where to get it, etc) and then what lights are needed that are sealed so I don't blow myself up heh.
Give yourself at least a 4-5 foot space around the vehicle. You will need to open the doors. If you think you will paint for other people, make it long enough for a Caddy or a crew cab truck. I don't believe you need a specific size. Remember, they paint motorcyles and semi trailers, so what is the correct size?........big enough to work in!
Ok well I see what you mean. I have a crew cab dually truck with a long bed that will need paint in about 4 more years at the rate it's going now. Maybe even 3. So a huge booth would be awsome. The only problem is buying land. Normally at my age (18) most people dont even look at buying land and a shop yet, they are still working at MC Donalds or a grocery store with little money.... So yeah I know it's going to be hard to get something going like this. I just don't see how people get these huge nice shops going right away, I dont see where they get all the money... Maybe loans or something?
I got my shop going at 21,, alot of work.... I reapeat... alot of work...
go for it .
If your looking for booth info, do a search on ebay, there's some people actually selling new booth's there, they show different styles and dimensions, it might give you some ideas for yours..
Ok awsome, thanks! Oh and JUST today I got your cataloge in the mail. Thanks a lot. I am looking into a spray gun still and maybe the sand blaster unit too. Oh and I need a IR curing lamp along with a IR Thermometer too so that will be another thing. I need to get it all priced up first and see how much I need to save here.
LOL I know the feeling, things add up super fast. just hope you find something you can use.. and like I said if you buy a few things I can cut the price some..
I hung a sheet of plastic with hooks the length of my garage.It is held to the floor with weights to seal of the bottom.The exhaust fan pulls fresh air from my attic with filters in the door way.If the fan is not real stromg you will get a nice air flow.Clean the garage by blowing out every inch of while the fan is on.Sweep,even vacumn and blow it out again.Hose it all down and you should have a decent job.When your done you can fold the plastic back.It's not as nice as my down draft at work but it's cheaper.
I bought all the PVC and plastic to build a make-shift paint booth for my single home build 32 Roadster project. Then I came to my senses, waited for some nice weather, and shot the underside and firewall over a three day period outside in the driveway in Austin Texas in August at 7:00 am (83F temperature) on each day. I wound up with an acceptable paint job with no bugs! I will definitely paint the top side outside as well.
From what I observed in terms of mist (HVLP gun used, AU paint) my make-shift paint booth would likely have left me in a toxic dense fog so to speak.
Bottom line, I think you need serious good ventilation (filters and brushless exhaust fans) and of course a fresh air breathing system to accomodate painting with isocyanates.
Regards, Kitz