Change of pace

Hello everybody-
I figured I would make a little introduction. I've been feeling out of place with the previous forum I was a member with, it became too model specific for me. I came across this forum and it seems like a better place for my intrests. I'm currently in the military and stationed overseas, however I have a shop working on my car so it'll be driveable when I get orders back to the states. I'm not particularly biased towards any specific style or genre of hot rodding, however I do love trans-am style racers. I'm currently building a new age hot rod, however I have owned a 73' 454 Cheyenne and when I was younger my father and I built a 36' GMC ratrod. Here's a preview of my car for now


https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8241/8...c25880618e.jpg


Thanks!

Welcome to CHR! Bit of everything here on CHR, as long as it goes fast and makes noise there's folks here who will appreciate it!!!!!

Welcome to CHR and thank you for your service! What you're doing day to day is appreciated. So a Gen III Camaro? What else can you tell us about it? Looks like an engine upgrade peeking over the front clip.....

Times three!! Glad to see you here and thanks for your service too...

Thanks guys-
Actually it's a 1st generation eagle talon I'm putting a ls376 and a hiedts pro-g rear end in. I had a custom chassis and roll cage made, also using a hiedts Mustang II front end. The 3rd gen Camaro wheels are just shop wheels to roll it around.

Welcome to CHR Thanks for your service. You'll have fun here. Enjoy your stay

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Originally Posted by rspears

. So a Gen III Camaro? What else can you tell us about it? Looks like an engine upgrade peeking over the front clip.....

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i thought it was that also :LOL:

pop up heaDlites are firebird

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Originally Posted by jerry clayton

pop up heaDlites are firebird

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No, he fooled us all with that front sheet metal removed :LOL::LOL::LOL: -

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Originally Posted by turtlespeeder

Thanks guys-
Actually it's a 1st generation eagle talon.....

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Pays to read all of the posts;)

whats a eagle talon?????????


Actually with the addition of the Heidt's IRS rear and the M2 front, ability to fully and easily adjust shock settings and spring/corner weights----that will be a very light weight package with the all alum drive train that will probably put a lot of vets to shame thinking they are dealing with a ricer!!!!!!!!!!!are you going to put a single fart can on one side in the rear????????


Buttttttttttttt---------------since that was a Chrysler car, you shoulda done a HEMIIIIIIIIIIII

I wanted to do a factory looking single muffler out the passenger side but I think it'll be too restrictive. The plan is to twin turbo it in a couple years, I want to get used to the way it drives and the power first. For those who aren't familiar with a eagle talon, it was a turbo awd 4 banger from the early 90s. It's basically the same exact car as a Mitsubishi eclipse, both of which were designed and manufactured here in normal, il. So it no import like most people think ;)
I'm really hoping to do some damage to vettes and 911s on the track.

wasn't some of those all wheel STEER also??????????????

No, that would have been awesome it was AWS/AWD. I don't think I would have put a new chassis in it if they made those. The only 90s cars I know of with AWS were preludes and the famed skyline as well as some euro cars

Friend of mine still has his Eclipse AWD, what a blast to travel with on South Dakota winter roads!!! He's done some mods to the car, biggest improvements being in the suspension as well as some aftermarket goodies in the engine and electronics.

Curious what sort of number you're looking at for the car to come in at on weight and front to rear weight bias???

As for weight, I'd like to not tip more that 26-2700lbs with fuel and myself on the scales. I'll add weight ballasts to get it closer to 50/50 if I'm too far off, but I don't think I'll be too bad. The aluminum ls3 only weights a slightly more than the 4g63 motor that was in it. The biggest weight change is the transmission. But the block was positioned pretty far back and as low as I could get it. The last to cylinders are actually under the cowl of the car. With a big 26 gallon fuel cell I think it'll be pretty close to 50/50.

you do realize that talking 26-2700 lbs and a 26 fuel cell that your weight will change by almost 10% from full-empty???and that will shift handling so far that ----------I would use a much smaller fuel cell

Like Jerry says, the 26 gallons of gasoline is going to weigh right at 155 to 165 pounds depending on the specific gravity of the fuel you buy. That's quite a bit of weight for that size car. The stock tank was sixteen gallons, I believe, which is a weight change of 96 to 102 pounds. The tank is formed to fit on top and ends, too. Have you looked at the space a 26 gallon tank will require? What's pushing you to the big tank?

I will be daily driving the car while I build a budget Cummins powered 70's Ford f250, and I didn't want to fill it up every other day. The fuel cell isn't set in stone yet, the chassis is off to powder coating soon. I guess I could go with a 20 gallon one, but I feel 16 just being too small. Either way the 2700 lbs was including a full tank and my self, so I guess with an empty tank and without me I'd be hoping the car weighs in at around 2400 lbs. I'm just guessing though, I haven't done any test weighs yet. Last time I was able to go home and look at it, it was in the state shown in the picture.

I'd suggest figuring the longest course you'll be running, and the maximum number of laps you'll make. Estimate your fuel mileage, size the tank accordingly. Having a lesser weight on fuel means less compromising you'll have to do on chassis setup to make a run. I've never liked having to add ballast to a car but in competition it's sometimes just something you have to deal with to make weight. I'd prefer ballast over having to run a lot of fuel to make weight, at least you can put the ballast where it will do a bit of good for the handling.... SCCA and even some outlaw tracks still like to spot check cars after a race to make sure they still make minimum weight. I believe this was brought about because some teams "designed" ballast that would somehow fall off the car (usually on a hard turn) during the course of a race, making the front to rear bias remain equal as the fuel weight decreases....Certainly nothing I would have ever tried back in my twisty turny racing days!!!!!!!:eek::eek:;);):D

The only issue with that is I have no idea where I'm going to settle down when I get out of the military. I can always rework the car to make it more of a weekend tracker instead of a daily driver.

Heck, might as well go with the big tank then, no law sez it has to be full!!!!

I'm new here also and I just wanted to extend a welcome from one newbie to another. Yes it does seem like a nice place to hangout and network.