thx guys, actually I found this engine on eBay. I saw a plymouth car for sale on ebay and he mentioned he had an additional engine for sale. After I posted this, I found tons more info here , this forum rocks! I think I am going to pass on this one though. I thought the 413 was an earlier hemi and not a wedge. I thought it would be a good engine for a retro rod I am attempting to get together. Plug wires coming out the valve covers gets me excited...