I'm a proud owner of a 82 Z28

The best headers I've used on a SBC were the Headman Elites. They use ball and socket arrangement on the collector and no collector gaskets. Use top lock all steel lock nuts and you should be good. They may need a little re tightening after a few miles, but should settle in pretty quick.

The flange gaskets I've had the best luck with are the multi-layered aluminum ones. Mr Gasket made the ones I've used, but there are others. These have a sort of honeycomb construction and can deform to seal very well, at least on the engines I used them on. They will need to be retightened a few times, but once they take a set, I rarely had them leak.

Considering how bad those 305 exhaust manifolds were, even shorty headers would be an improvement.

Wow, those do look good, I like the ball type seal a lot. A little spendy but worth it. Looks like exhaust will be about as expensive as the motor build for this thing. I'll probably start with the exhaust for now and do the motor swap sometime later. Now I gotta figure out how to hide a 1000 or more bucks in exhaust from my wife this winter :LOL:

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Survivor? Keep all the parts on a shelf for that nut ball that will want it that way and do what you need to especially since we don't have emissions testing for the time being. I remember putting that 3" SS exhaust kit on Aaron's Cross fire car. What a joy that deal was. :LOL:

As far as the collectors go, use V bands. That should reduce possibilities for those to leak.

Since I work in water and waste water plants, one of our favorite sayings is, "the solution to pollution is dilution".. And that's what I've always seen as the purpose of those air pumps. Want to clean up the tailpipe? Push some air into the system! Guaranteed to lower the tailpipe number.
It was claimed to create an "afterburner effect" and the high temps would burn off the "unburnt" fuel... Yeah, right!

At least the PCV system would give you visible results. And for the better too! I'm old enough to remember cars with the road draft tube and smelling the fumes from the motor while waiting at a light.. no thanks, I'll run a pcv and enjoy breathing.

So the air pump really doesn't do any real cleanup, just dilutes it ? Kinda like peeing in a ice cream pail vs peeing in a pool.

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Originally Posted by 34_40

Since I work in water and waste water plants, one of our favorite sayings is, "the solution to pollution is dilution".. And that's what I've always seen as the purpose of those air pumps. Want to clean up the tailpipe? Push some air into the system! Guaranteed to lower the tailpipe number.
It was claimed to create an "afterburner effect" and the high temps would burn off the "unburnt" fuel... Yeah, right!

At least the PCV system would give you visible results. And for the better too! I'm old enough to remember cars with the road draft tube and smelling the fumes from the motor while waiting at a light.. no thanks, I'll run a pcv and enjoy breathing.

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Everything I have besides my F350 has a road draft tube. Well except my 72 and Vette. They have catch cans now. Haha

I must disagree with 34-40 I was in the emissioms business sence the norris thermadore pcv law thats when I got my first licence in 1962 when we blocked the road draft tube and installed a primitive pcv valve and taught emissions for yesrs the purpose of air injector sys. is to add o2 down stream to continue to burn the unburned ( hc) hydrocarbons later years the added catalitic converters think of thoes as after burners they need o2 to work if you turn off the down stream o2 it won't be long before you plug op the cat. and you will have major drivabilty problems thanks to the advent of the onboard computer we have come to the point that we can controll the a/f mixture and timing so precise we can have cars that perform, get great fuel miliage, and are clean the newer cars when you put them on the infred red emissions tester they come up what we call owl eyes 00-hc 00-co- 00-o2 the air going in the intake is dirtier than that comes out the tail pipe

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I must disagree with 34-40 I was in the emissioms business sence the norris thermadore pcv law thats when I got my first licence in 1962 when we blocked the road draft tube and installed a primitive pcv valve and taught emissions for yesrs the purpose of air injector sys. is to add o2 down stream to continue to burn the unburned ( hc) hydrocarbons later years the added catalitic converters think of thoes as after burners they need o2 to work if you turn off the down stream o2 it won't be long before you plug op the cat. and you will have major drivabilty problems thanks to the advent of the onboard computer we have come to the point that we can controll the a/f mixture and timing so precise we can have cars that perform, get great fuel miliage, and are clean the newer cars when you put them on the infred red emissions tester they come up what we call owl eyes 00-hc 00-co- 00-o2 the air going in the intake is dirtier than that comes out the tail pipe

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And I will disagree with you when it comes to the early systems, they were JUNK, pure unadulterated JUNK.
When I came back from overseas in 64 my dad had bought me a pristine 57 Ford Custom that he found at the dealer up around La Habra where he bought his brand new T-bird. Since it came from a dealer it had to be smogged with a primitive pcv system that plugged the road draft tube amongst other things. I came home in June and a couple of months later I was heading back to Anaheim from dropping a buddy off in Santa Fe Springs when all of a sudden there was a large bang under the hood and close to two quarts of oil on the right side of the windshield and the rest of the car. I pulled into a gas station down the block and discovered that the crankcase pressure had been so great that it blew the dipsitck out of it's tube, denting the hood and blowing the oil on the windshield. I put 2 quarts of oil in the engine and the next morning when I pulled the rubber cork out of the road draft tube I made one hell of a mess on my dad's driveway. I put a vented cap back on the oil filler tube a shit canned the pcv valve and plugged the hoses but the damaged had been done to the bearings. What a waste and if pcv systems are so great then why do you still have smog in so. california?

Ken you are right about the norris thermadore sys it was junk and we had alot of customer complaints about them but it was a start. 2 yrs. later they were improved on buy detroit and and became std equiptment and yet some people even took thoes off. They actually help the eng and performance how dumb is that. I have seen the auto industry and hot rod qualty really evolve in the last 60 plus yrs.

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Ken you are right about the norris thermadore sys it was junk and we had alot of customer complaints about them but it was a start. 2 yrs. later they were improved on buy detroit and and became std equiptment and yet some people even took thoes off. They actually help the eng and performance how dumb is that. I have seen the auto industry and hot rod qualty really evolve in the last 60 plus yrs.

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So have I ,but you didn't answer my question. Why do you still have smog in so california?

I think that California has made great improvements in their smog situation over the years...I am not a
big fan of pollution controls on motors but in 1971 you couldn't see a car cross the finish line when you
were standing at the starting line at the drag strip in Pomona. Now, you can see completely across the
parking lot....mucho better. Of course, now there are many times more cars AND not all pollution is
from cars. I think they are at the point of diminishing returns now, the easy stuff has been fixed.

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I think that California has made great improvements in their smog situation over the years...I am not a
big fan of pollution controls on motors but in 1971 you couldn't see a car cross the finish line when you
were standing at the starting line at the drag strip in Pomona. Now, you can see completely across the
parking lot....mucho better. Of course, now there are many times more cars AND not all pollution is
from cars. I think they are at the point of diminishing returns now, the easy stuff has been fixed.

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I remember that well, I left in Sept of 72. The real problem was diesels and factory emissions and the fact that the LA basin is sided to the north, east and somewhat to the south by mountains and the ocean to the west. When the tides come in it bring along with it heavy moisture laden air which head east only to bounce off the mountains and head back west over the basin and thus you have smog in the basin. At one time there were more, maybe still is, more OTR trucks registered in california than any other state with NO emission controls and therein was/is the problem. They've run all of the industry off so they can't be blamed anymore and they finally required emission controls on diesel engines, why do you think Mercedes quit selling diesel cars for a few years? And have you ever been behind a bus in the LA area in the 60's? You needed a gas mask if you had to follow the thing very far. California is only progressive when it comes to spending other peoples money, other wise it's full of fruits, nuts and stupid liberals.

Commercial wise you can't even have a truck in CA older than 1997 and if you do they fine you even though it doesn't say that on their site or regulations. Diesel has came along way in the last 15 years for sure. The air coming into the air filter is dirtier than the air coming out. That's about the only positive about it if you own any or have to work on them, that is another story.

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As far as the collectors go, use V bands. That should reduce possibilities for those to leak.

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That's route I took on the Healey. Easy to disassemble for service too.

I checked out he 350 Vortec today and I'm going with that motor. Engine oil was full and clean and the radiator was full on antifreeze so those were a couple good signs. If I sell a few parts off the pickup and bring the rest for scrap, the motor will be free.I slowed this whole project down a bit so I can decide whether to just freshen this up with rings and bearings and a cam or if I want to build a 383 ( I've wanted one of them since I was 16 ) I guess what it comes down to is which Camaro I want to be the quickest :LOL:

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I guess what it comes down to is which Camaro I want to be the quickest :LOL:

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( in my best Yiddish impersonation) such a problem to have! :LOL::LOL::LOL:

Every time I watch Street Outlaws and see Monza's car, I get stupid ideas and more drive to try to find another. :LOL:

Well, I tripped over Votec 350 #2 today, this one has 125K and he wanted $200 for it and that includes a new set of shorty headers.Their kinda worthless for anything I got but free is free. I hope its as good as he said it is cause I'm going to do a bearing check and swap the cam and intake, and that's it. I'm going to try to keep this a budget build under $3500 including the price of the car. Right now I'm sitting at 2550 and that price includes billing myself $350 for not selling the 700R4 that I have laying around.I think the exhaust on these stupid gen 3 Camaros is going to be the budget killer. I'm just about certain the other 350 is going to be turned into a 383 and be jacked up a bit more for the 71 when the time comes.

I was thinking more like this Ryan, It's hard to find a pic without that aftermarket cowl hood.

I'd take that and the only thing I'd change is go to a low spoiler in the rear. I like the bigger Cragar's too.

I like the low spoiler better also, and the low one is correct for the 71 if my research is right. I've always been stuck on the Z28 wheels but I like the Cragars also.

Well, if you really want to get carried away on the '71....:D:D:D

That thing is wrong on so many levels, right down to the Ford Torino grill :LOL:

I think you should just forget about your chrome bumper Camaro and carry on with the rubber bumper one. My trailer is hooked up so just let me know. Shoot, I'd even be saving you all those engine decision hassles you have been having. :cool::LOL::CRY::LOL:

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I think you should just forget about your chrome bumper Camaro and carry on with the rubber bumper one. My trailer is hooked up so just let me know. Shoot, I'd even be saving you all those engine decision hassles you have been having. :cool::LOL::CRY::LOL:

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Your quite the salesman:LOL: It's not as stressful any more because I'm pretty set on building a 383 for it :cool:. It doesn't seat enough for your family anyway :LOL:

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Your quite the salesman:LOL: It's not as stressful any more because I'm pretty set on building a 383 for it :cool:. It doesn't seat enough for your family anyway :LOL:

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The rest can ride in the 40 with the wife. :LOL:

The guy dropped off my 350 vortec and shorty headers that I got off of Facebook for $200. He wanted to deliver it so I didn't argue. I gave him $75 for his time and gas cause I have to sleep at night. I may pop the heads off it when the time comes to to check things out . I can have the valve guides cut down then too for more cam lift if necessary. I think the hood is going to get closed on the Z28 though, I got other irons in the fire right now and I'm sick of spending money for awhile :(

Hey Seth, a buddy of mine is at the f-body nationals this weekend. He just posted this 3rd gen Camaro on Facebook. Thought you might like it. Here's what he said about it:

Check out this nasty 3rd Gen Camaro at the @fbodynationals It's built by @detroitspeed & its packing a @mastmotorsports destroked LS7. This thing screams!! #fbodynationals #camaro #camaroporn #idrivea55 www.idrivea55.com

The thing is pretty sweet, I love the blue. I'm not even sure what the specs are ona LS 7 are let alone a destroked one. I'm sure it's faster than anything I'll ever have on my yard though LOL

We brought in the Z28 for Christian to mess around with. He is constantly asking me how much I'll sell it for if he is able to buy it some day. I keep telling him He'll be able to afford it, he is in love with this car. My plan is to give him the keys to it if he graduates High School. He deserves something if he keeps trying as hard as he is vs his older brothers attitude about school :mad: I had him take out the seat so we could fix some broken frame work poking through the cushion and remove the door guard strips that were half falling off. It looks better without them anyway.

Feeding his interest, and getting him engaged and using the tools is a great thing! Kudo's to you for making the effort, and recognizing his efforts in his school work, too. Good job, Dad!

Thanks Roger, watching Mike P and Cade was a pusher for me to do something like he's doing for Cade. Christian is not a wrench guy but I'll see if I can keep him busy polishing and mild mechanic work.

It's great to see Seth. I've seen that stare Christian has a time or two on Cade. :)


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Very cool and I'm glad he took a liking to it. That should help motivate him. Nothing is better than pulling into your high school parking lot with a sweet ride!

Great looking car, it looks really solid! Takes me back to my high school days.

We went after the paint to see if we could bring it back and it didn't do too bad. We clay bar'd the hood and then I used a wool pad with medium cut and then a foam waffle pad with fine cut. After that a coat of Meguiers car wax and it turned out pretty good.

I think I have a new plan for the Z28

1 to 10?
I'd say about fifteen.

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Originally Posted by 53 Chevy5

I think I have a new plan for the Z28

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This might work....:LOL::LOL::cool: