Thanks again Bob. I guess I have a rough price in my head now so it's all up to seeing it it person I guess if I am interested. I will look at all those spots for rust. As for the subrails I was figuring on chanelling it a bit if I think I'll fit so that may not matter too much (although it would drop the price I suppose). I would guess the axle center line would be further back with the spring ahead of axle, but what exactly are the disadvantages there? It looks like this frame has a stock style crossmember, right? I don't have a strong desire to go with a suicide perch. It would just complicate things more than I need.