Quote Originally Posted by IC2 View Post
Some time when you go to a fair size car show, crawl under some of the home built, kinda rough cars and you will be surprised at the spit, baling wire assembly and welds holding them together. I'm a mediocre welder at best, but when I bought my little mig, I took a course at the local welding school. Six evenings over 3 weeks - a half hour of classroom, 2-1/2 hours of burning wire.

To be honest Dave your absolutely right, the amount of poor welding i see on cars in the U.S. and in the U.K. is mind blowing, When people bring their cars to me for something i often have a look around and some things i see blow my mind !!!

I recently had a guy bring his car around as his rear shock mount had broke, while i was underneath i noticed that the brake pipe wasnt secured to the frame rail, on further inspection i could see why not, the brake line to the rear had no flexible in it It was all hardline so they left it unclipped to allow for movement

Another one i see a lot is cheap bolts in suspension arms, they are usually bent but i did see one car that had been assembeled with studding and a nut on either end