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Mike52 wrote:I can't speak for the Ford, but I know that I will. Leaving Pennsyltucky early this Saturday morning with plans to arrive in Dade City on Sunday (23rd) and be at the Turkey Run on the following Saturday. It's just too nice there and too damn cold here.:LOL: :LOL:Quote:
Hmmm, wonder if I can have it here in time for the Turkey Run next weekend????? I'll bet that baby will be glad to get out of the cold, snowy north and retire to warm, sunny Florida......
You guys have made me curious. I have ridden in several "pumped up" flathead powered rods before, and was very sadly disappointed in the perfomance. What kind of reasonable horsepower can you make on pump gas?
Dade City?? Don't tell me you're coming down to visit Dixie (Jim), I smell trouble if that's the case.Quote:
Originally Posted by mopar34
Mike
Yep, pretty much. For every ten builders on this site who can do it right, there are another 90 who will screw it up or have some inept builder screw it up and be too ignorant to realize it. I'm just tellin' it like I see it. Like I said, if you could follow me around techin' cars, you'd see it too. Like me or don't like me, I'm not competing in a popularity contest. If everybody who starts a thread on this board knew what he was doing, the only answers would be...."good job, nice car".Quote:
Originally Posted by 41willys
:LOL: Power claims are like liar's poker.............deal away Jay!!:LOL:Quote:
Originally Posted by HOTRODPAINT
Let's take this 21 studder as an example. Stock it's rated at 85 hp, that's in the day when they quoted "gross" ratings, meaning without any accessory drag figured in. Do the typical stuff, "high" compression heads (8.5 to 1:rolleyes: ), headers, two 94s or 97s, some ignition work, and a "3/4 race" cam you can expect what? Maybe double? Still under 200hp. I'm sure we'll hear about some manner or other of claims from magazines, "my best buddy", and other anecdotal "evidence", but it takes a lot of work (translate to $$$) to get bigger numbers from a flatty. They exist, they're just rare and expensive.
Agree with Bob. 150 to 175 is real. You can make more than that of course, but it won't be streetable.
Mike52 wrote:Actually Mike I will be about 4 doors west of Dixie. Same road, same side of the street.:eek: Got too much to do on Sunday, with my daughters B-day party and festivities at my in-laws place, but will probably walk over and see if the old coot is around on Monday.:LOL: :LOL:Quote:
Dade City?? Don't tell me you're coming down to visit Dixie (Jim), I smell trouble if that's the case.
I just saw an interesting comment on another forum and it struck me as funny but true. Someone questioned the cost of building a good flathead, and the person who responded said "you will never spend so much money to go so slow." :D That statement is pretty accurate IMO, if a person is concerned with performance a flathead is kinda at the bottom of the list, but if you are looking for traditional cool, then it is a different story.
When I was young the OHV V8's were just starting to show up in junkyards, and we couldn't remove the flatheads fast enough to put in an Olds, Caddy, Buick, or even Studebaker V8 in it's place. That being said, I am still going to build a car around the flathead I bought recently, just for the cool factor.
Don
PS, I hope the weather down here changes in time for Turkey Run, it was 48 last night and only 65 today. They are predicting 75 during the days of the show in Daytona, so it might be ok.
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PS, I hope the weather down here changes in time for Turkey Run, it was 48 last night and only 65 today. QUOTE]
:LOL: :LOL: :LOL: Forgive me if I don't shed any tears, Don!!!!!:LOL: :LOL: :LOL: Almost made it up to 40 today for a high temp!!!!
I do hope you guys have great weather for the turkey run, already looking forward to bunches of pics!!!!!
That would be the first Chev V8s of 1917?Quote:
Originally Posted by Itoldyouso
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Originally Posted by Bob Parmenter
Why no, Bob, I was in my 50's when THOSE CAME OUT!! :p :p :p :p
Don
Time to dig out my Geezer Crossing picture again.
Never did one, but I was just thinkin' that one way to extract some decent hp and torque from a flattie using a streetable cam would be 5 psi with one of the smaller blowers or a vintage Paxton/McCulloch with a blow-through carb.
what is spooky is 3 main caps:eek: scat makes cranks rods so you can make it hold up ? crower makes roller lifters for then to$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$Quote:
Originally Posted by techinspector1
As I have said before I gave up trying to find a good flathead block from junkyards and local advertisements after looking a about five or so with the heads off and close examination. The most common problem is a crack between a valve and the edge of a cylinder but as Pat said the limit of only three mains is a problem with higher HP. Just for fun here is another site we have seen before that indicates the block will probably hold up to 175 HP but Ardun heads are not cheap!
http://www.oogabooga.ca/oogaboogapag40.htm
I recall some recent article in the last five years that compared a fully built up flathead bored, stroked, ported and relieved in which the two cams from Iskederian were compared. Both cams produced similar numbers for what I recall was a 284 cu. in. flathead and they both produced about 250 HP. What is interesting about this particular car is that apparently the block is OK as is and might be free of cracks. A cracked block may still run OK but if it consumes water rapidly it is probably sucking water into a cylinder on the intake stroke even if it does not fill the cylinder when the motor is off. There is no doubt that a simple rebuild of a SBC 350 is much cheaper and will produce more HP than a flathead but then that means an upgrade for the whole driveline. If it runs, as it seems to, I would really enjoy the time warp of driving the car just like it was "back in the day", but I would at least convert the brakes to hydraulic. I can recall coming over a hill in a '31 Model A to see a red light at the bottom of the hill and using both feet on the brake and just barely stopping. Later mechanical brakes were not much better!
Don Shillady
Retired Scientist/teen rodder
the french military truck flat heads are good block if you can find one?they use the flat head for some time ? god only knows why??? i am thinking there were in on hurry getting to the fight:HMMM:
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the french military truck flat heads are good block if you can find one?they use the flat head for some time ? god only knows why??? i am thinking there were in on hurry getting to the fight
LMAO:LOL: :LOL:
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Don wrote:Today it's a nice crispy 30 degrees with snow. A high of 65 and a low of 48 sounds damn good to me.:D :LOL: Keep the heat on Don, will be down your way in less than 48 hours.:DQuote:
PS, I hope the weather down here changes in time for Turkey Run, it was 48 last night and only 65 today. They are predicting 75 during the days of the show in Daytona, so it might be ok.
I bought some parts frome joe and evelyn and cant remember there last name I drove up to san francisco to pick them up they bought all 10 shipping containers full of the french flatheads and parts the co. name is sf flat heads ph # 1-415-308-8878 realy nice people interesting note the live in a 3 story house that they restored on the corner of haight ashbury or go to sf flatheads.com....ted
Thanks Denny that was interesting and informative!:D