Thread: Rodders Impact On The Environment

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What is our destiny?With all the different states looking at new legislation to solve the pollution problem.I sometimes wonder if we will just have to conform to new pollution control laws or park the rod and just look at it.Texas in Jan.is offering me up 3,500 for my car (that will be crunched) toward the purchase of a new car that is considered ok for the environment.My lawn mower will be next.#???

I'm pretty sure sometime down the road, it's going to effect most states. With more proof that the climate is changing due to warming of the planet from cars,factories,humans,etc., were going to see more and more people who want to get the older cars and hot rods off the roads due to lack of pollution control on these vehicles. It going to take some time because theres alot of us in all the states, just not california, and texas that have cars that don't conform to their rules on pollution control. If someone told me thatthey would give me x amount of $'s for my vehicle so they could crush it, I would tell them where to stick their $. I'm almost 64 and I hope if I'm still alive, I can still drive my 37 or whatever I have at that time

[QUOTE=chevy 37]I'm pretty sure sometime down the road, it's going to effect most states. With more proof that the climate is changing due to warming of the planet from cars,factories,humans,etc.,

This is so untrue and you have and are bring fooled, thinking this way, what was it hitler said tell a lie long and often and some will follow, we humans are not power full enough to change the climate. If in doubt consider this question, how come we can not make it rain when we want, that is a simple manipulation of weather we have not figured that one out yet. So warming up the earth living , driving and in some cases farting, is really a dumb thought process, have another glass of cool-aid this country really needs a good shot of common sense,

yeah blame our cars and look at the jet fuel from all the airlines,
military aircraft waste, and space shots to nowhere.

if i had an e85 station here id convert!

alternative fuels will not be fully utilized untill fossil fuels are fully comsumed .. fossil fuels will not be fully consumed untill ever available $ goes into some ones pocket .. we need to elect auto enthisiasts into political office .. jay leno for president .!!

i say elect ron paul,

My Mom was a pilot. She flew in the WASP during WWII. She flew the fighter stuff - P-51, P-47 and others. Later, when she was older, she instructed, and also towed gliders, and spotted swordfish, and lots of fun stuff. As she got even older (late 70's) she flew a restored 1941 Piper Cub. What a beautiful plane. Anyone on this site would just drool over that beauty. I once asked her about her legality... like medical certificates and such. Her response was a not so polite version of "So What"? "What can they do to me"? She is gone now. But I sure like that attitude. My plan is to keep hot rodding. I just don't think there is enough room in jail to pen us all up!

what some folks forget is the true amount of pre80's cars there really are on the road. I read an article that said that something like 1/2% of all cars on the road were pre80 & for the most part those were collector cars that might get drove 5,000 or less a year.
Lets not forget that large companies get to buy pollution credits also & one way is to buy up old cars & crush them. That way they don't have to clean up their own pollution. PLUS I truly wonder how much of this so-called air polution we supposible make might be coming from overseas where they basicly have no pollution regulation..joe

This is a time to listen to those looking to get elected,see what they stand for,an unfortunate fact is the ones that control the media and spend the most bucks is usually the ones we end up with,then its the lesser of two evils we have to live with.

I could see having a recreational plating for the cars and only allowing so many miles per year .... Or extra tax .. But to think of them buying and crushing them is ubsurd .. Its american history.. I think instead of messing with the ones they feel easiest to run over the common man with a hot rod they need to crack down on the smoke stac factories and corp america..

I honestly think our days are numbered. We can think all we want that our numbers are so high that we have some control over our futures, but the environmentalists and bureaucrats are going to have their way in the end. It won't happen all at once or in the next few years, but they will just keep taking small bites out of us until it is just impossible for us to register or afford to drive our cars.

I am not normally a pessimist, but if you look at what is going on in some States, like California, pretty soon those restrictions will start to trickle down to the rest of us. For someone my age it doesn't matter a lot, but I feel sorry for our younger generations that won't have the opportunity to carry on this hobby that is so rich with history and tradition.

Don

when hot rods and guns become outlawed, i will become an outlaw

Originally Posted by 217-z

I think instead of messing with the ones they feel easiest to run over the common man with a hot rod they need to crack down on the smoke stac factories and corp america..

This i feel is true what little bite's they can take that won't hit there pockets as bad . This is what i feel also the easiest and less expensive move to correct pollution . The answer is in the major picture not the little guy but that will cost Government to much money .

We have cleaned our act up.......its the factories that were given emission credits ,basically just do not pollute anymore than you already are ,mexico ,which is pollutin from our investments ,no enviromental laws down there.
They were able to pull up lead samples from the north pole on when we were in the lead age and camp fires polluted the earth before there were even cars or factories.
They came for the green people ,I was not green so I did not stop them.They came for the reds ,I was not red so I did not stop them ,they came for the blues ,I was not blue soo I did not stop them ,then they came for ME ...................
Sorry to degrade ,in some peoples eyes,this to shootin talk ,but thats what started this great country is killin .
I will die for my freedom,right to drive my hotrod,and my way of life.

Like I have said before I am willing to kill and die at the end of my driveway for what i believe.I hope they feel that strongly about cleanin up the earth or taking my hotrod,because thats the sacrifice that will be needed from them to take my freedoms away.
Look at it this way ,you are being held accountable for a manufactures limited product,they only make a gas burner and thats all you can buy to drive to work,but its" your "fault that the polution is on the earth ,not the company that only provides a polluter......?
You are given one option and then told its your fault when you buy that option...... They got you guys sukkered in......The big factory and manufactures have laid the blame on our backs and people accept this...lol

Did you design the car....?
Did you manufacture the car...?
Did you set the pollution limits....?
Did they ask you for any input......?

If you can answer yes to any of these then its your fault ,if you answered no,thats the same answer to the question ,is pollution your fault...

Soo my question to you is ,will you let them trick you into believing its your fault and let them take away your freedoms based on a situation thats out of our hands.....we have no say in and are being tricked into believing its our fault.
If there are 95 percent of the cars running emmissions equipment,like they say ,then where is all the pollution coming from ,.....5 percent of the cars with no pollution equipment.... That 5 percent is keeping the pollution at the same level or higher for the last 10 years ....c-mon thats unbelievable even for a layman like me..... I bet its the factories that have not cut emmisions {which would be every single one of em} as they were not mandated to cut ,they were mandated just to not increase them anymore.
Now we are the ones responsible and have to pay to clean it up,we have to sacrifice to clean it up and we have to be restricted to clean it up,possibly forfiet our rights to clean it up...............
I am sorry ,the guns worked just fine when we left the brittish,slaughtered the indians and killed ourselves{civil war} ,they will get the job done again,just like history has shown over the last 10 thousand years.......