some opinions, please

Looking for a wheel and tire combo for Jackie's Camaro. Yeah, I know they're Ford wheels and the bolt pattern is wrong, but that's no big deal to correct. Never heard of thes tires, here's a bit of info from the ad:

ITEM DESCRIPTION: You are bidding on a set of four brand-new BLACK replica BULLITT style rims, Vredestein tires and original Ford OEM center caps.

Speed rated at 180 mph. I think a good, aggressive looking tread, wondered what you guys though of them. For those who don't know, the maro is an '82 with a few custom mods, wheel openings are still stock, however.

Thanks for your consideration.....

That's an old line Dutch/German brand of tire well known in Europe.

The wheel is basically a knockoff of the American Torque thrust D, a timeless design that's easy on the eye. Unless these are going to go at a super price you should be able to get them in 4 3/4 b.c. and not have to modify.

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Originally Posted by Bob Parmenter

That's an old line Dutch/German brand of tire well known in Europe.

The wheel is basically a knockoff of the American Torque thrust D, a timeless design that's easy on the eye. Unless these are going to go at a super price you should be able to get them in 4 3/4 b.c. and not have to modify.

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That's what I thought, too. But he only has them (yeah, a sale price) with the Mustang bolt pattern. Got to buy axles for the 9", so no big deal there......and I know of a place that I can get the new 11" rotors--before the drilling is done for the bolt holes.....(good to have friends, huh?)

Looks aggressive, should have some great traction, right? The road course down by Kansas City has open track days....sounds like fun, huh????:LOL: :LOL: :LOL:

I think they're beautiful. :)

I haven't heard of them either, sounds like a European name maybe? Look good though!
Ken

How much does he want for them? I like the TT2M's that American Racing has! I would pair those with some BFG G-Force Sports. For the price, those are the stickiest tires I have ever owned!

John

about $1150 for the tires and wheels... I've got nothing against Weld Wheels, just tired of seeing them on everything. Guess I've just never been one to go with the trick of the month club stuff. Thought the tire and wheel combination was a bit unique and would fit in well with the rest of the build....

....They look REALLY nice & they're DIFFERENT, which is good!!! ;)

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Originally Posted by Dave Severson

... I've got nothing against Weld Wheels, just tired of seeing them on everything.

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Dave,

I like the wheel/tire combo. Traditional, yet different. That little pony logo on a Chebby is an issue, though. Is there a replacement cap?

BTW, it's old news, but las year, I was surprised to see that Weld Wheels went bankrupt. They were the wheel of choice for rodders and racers for quite a while.

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Weld Wheel Industries Inc. has completed its bankruptcy-driven sale in a deal that will keep its local facilities rolling. The Kansas City-based manufacturer of high-end custom wheels filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection in August. As a result of the bankruptcy, Weld Wheel sold all its assets to American Racing Equipment Inc., a similar company based in Rancho Dominguez, Calif., for $24.4 million.

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I like'm i want to put a set of torque thrust style wheels on my courier project, I just need to find them in a six spoke style

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Originally Posted by Henry Rifle

Dave,

I like the wheel/tire combo. Traditional, yet different. That little pony logo on a Chebby is an issue, though. Is there a replacement cap?

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Oh well!!! I would imagine most are going to have issues with the other changes I've made on the car anyhow!!!! I can't let a little thing like a center cap stand in the way of progress!!!!!!:LOL: :LOL: :LOL: :LOL:

I am more for the chrome look on wheels my self but I like the profile and the stance. For me Dave and all the custom stuff on the car they will probly work well.

Vrederstein Tires is a European tire company that makes tires for hi-performance vehicles to lawn tractors and everything in between. I used to have a two sets for my Fiat Dino, one set for winter and one for the rest of the year. That was back before All Season Radials became a commodity. They were excellent tires.

As to the wheels, I like the looks of them, but not sure I would go to the expense of having them converted for GM. Maybe if it could be done cheaply, like re-drilling the mounting plate for the GM bolt circle. Other mfrg's do this all of the time during production, but not sure how well it could be accomplished after production. :confused:

About the little horses on the center hub, maybe you can get it taken off or maybe just covered over by another horse.....a prancing horse!! That would certainly mess with some people's mind's.:LOL: :LOL: :LOL:

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Originally Posted by Henry Rifle

Dave,

I like the wheel/tire combo. Traditional, yet different. That little pony logo on a Chebby is an issue, though. Is there a replacement cap?

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Oh, come on Jack, I think the Mustang logo on a Maro would add class. :LOL: :LOL: :LOL: It'd definitely be in the dare to be different category.

Do you know Coys wheels?...similar design to what you showed us. They also come in a dark grey center. Small company in Utah, but they make a nice wheel...I like the soft lip design. I ordered a set and they are really nice, and the price was just under $1200 for a set of two 17's and two 18's without tires, delivered to my door...thats cheap compared to TT2's or some of the other wheels out there. They have tire and wheel packages too. Only problem is they take forever to ship...I had to wait 4 weeks.

I think what a Fordaholic like Davey needs to do is have Pro70 produce 4 little stickers to place on the center caps just under the pony logo that say .......................WANABE......:D

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Originally Posted by mopar34

Vrederstein Tires is a European tire company that makes tires for hi-performance vehicles to lawn tractors and everything in between. I used to have a two sets for my Fiat Dino, one set for winter and one for the rest of the year. That was back before All Season Radials became a commodity. They were excellent tires.

As to the wheels, I like the looks of them, but not sure I would go to the expense of having them converted for GM. Maybe if it could be done cheaply, like re-drilling the mounting plate for the GM bolt circle. Other mfrg's do this all of the time during production, but not sure how well it could be accomplished after production.

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I have to order rear axles, so the bolt pattern on them is not a problem, can get anything I want. For the front I just redrill the brake rotors....

Appreciate the info on the tires!!!!

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Originally Posted by 63BoxNova

Do you know Coys wheels?...similar design to what you showed us. They also come in a dark grey center. Small company in Utah, but they make a nice wheel...I like the soft lip design. I ordered a set and they are really nice, and the price was just under $1200 for a set of two 17's and two 18's without tires, delivered to my door...thats cheap compared to TT2's or some of the other wheels out there. They have tire and wheel packages too. Only problem is they take forever to ship...I had to wait 4 weeks.

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Nice wheels, but not my style. I really like the look of the Bullitt wheels, and these are a knock off of them. As for the price, these are about the same price as the Coys, but includes all 4 tires!!!!!

Although they are considered somewhat of a torq thrust copy, that wheel is specific to only factory built Mustangs. I think anyone who is into cars is gonna instantly see them as Mustang wheels on a Camaro, regardless of what the centercaps say. They're nice wheels... on a mustang.

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Originally Posted by joeybsyc

Although they are considered somewhat of a torq thrust copy, that wheel is specific to only factory built Mustangs. I think anyone who is into cars is gonna instantly see them as Mustang wheels on a Camaro, regardless of what the centercaps say. They're nice wheels... on a mustang.

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Guess I'm not quite as stuck on what they were designed for as most people are... The wheels that were designed for the car and would be "correct" on it are just plain fugly!!!! They currently reside in the scrap aluminum pile!!!! As I've said before, nothing is sacred around here!!!! If the Mustang wheels look good on the Camaro, that's what it will get.....

Then go for it...You asked for an opinion and I gave you mine. I personally think the original 5 spoke Z28 wheels look good, at least on a Camaro. Can't say i like the looks of them on anything else.

I appreciate the opinion, Joey, but I just don't like the Z wheels...Besides, they are only 15 X 7's. The Bullit type are 17 X 10 and 17 X 9, with the directional tread 45 series radials, and the pending suspension mods, should give it some serious traction, both forward bite and side bite!!!! Cruisin' around and looking nice is ok, but I want to take this thing out in the windy/twisties and have some serious fun!!!!

wanna find something cool, i miss the old appliance steel spoke 5 bar mags.

Dave, here is a nice wheel with a little horse on the cap. Not sure if the bolt pattern or sizes work for you but if you could get new axles than you might be good to go. Unfortunately they don't come in black.

Also, if you get new axles you might also want to pick up the brakes as well. Maybe helpful on those windy/twisty roads!:LOL: :LOL:

Brakes are 14.2" front and 13.8" rear. Wheels are 19' front and rear, tires are 225/35zr19 front and 285/35zr19 rear. Only providing this info cause I know you are going to want a set for the Camaro. It will be the koolest car on your street.

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Originally Posted by mopar34

Also, if you get new axles you might also want to pick up the brakes as well. Maybe helpful on those windy/twisty roads!:LOL: :LOL:

Brakes are 14.2" front and 13.8" rear. Wheels are 19' front and rear, tires are 225/35zr19 front and 285/35zr19 rear. Only providing this info cause I know you are going to want a set for the Camaro. It will be the koolest car on your street.

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Man, that has got to be some stopping power!!!! I thought my 9's on the back and 11" rotors on the front would stop me plenty good. Heck, what I have in the whole braking system probably wouldn't buy a set of pads for that bad boy????:LOL: :LOL: :LOL: :LOL:

14's and 13's! Damn those babys will put you through the windsheild in a parking lot!

That's what seat belts are for.:LOL: :LOL: But considering the little 366 ci v8 is turning out 620 hp and 450 ft lbs of torque:eek: , you're probably going to need those big boys to haul you down when you get to the exit of that parking lot.:LOL: :LOL: :LOL:

Dave you know being a ford guy here Mustang wheels here are :3dSMILE: well you know . My son just bought a 07 Mustang and while there i was eyeing this Shelby GT 500 on the floor . Even with my eyebrows bouncing wife said 65k was a bit much :( . So go with the Mustang wheels it would be a blast seeing them on the camaro .

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Originally Posted by bluestang67

Dave you know being a ford guy here Mustang wheels here are :3dSMILE: well you know . My son just bought a 07 Mustang and while there i was eyeing this Shelby GT 500 on the floor . Even with my eyebrows bouncing wife said 65k was a bit much :( . So go with the Mustang wheels it would be a blast seeing them on the camaro .

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Ummm. guess I didn't notice they were Mustang wheels...oversight on my part I suppose....:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: Well, it's not like I would ever do something like putting Mustang looking wheels on a Camaro just to arouse the locals......:eek: :eek: :eek: Just not good at this "correct" stuff, am I????

Yeah, when they first started talking about the new Shelby figured I HAD to have one.... Went to my favorite new Mustang Sales dude and told him I would spend as much as $35k on one.... Man, did I find out how wrong I was.... I do have my name in with one of the big recyclers and two repo guys to let me know if one becomes available at a "discount"!!! Guess if I want one I'll probably have to clone it...

Ain't nothing wrong with clones.... unless it goes "baaaa".:LOL: :LOL:

I think they'd look great if they're on a black car or if you repaint them to match body color. Otherwise I'd have to say chrome would look better.