In light of some recent posts about stolen rods I have been considering the Lojak locator system. Anybody have this system installed on their car(s) comments??? I have presently a fuel shutoff valve and ignition cutoff switch but that's about it.
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In light of some recent posts about stolen rods I have been considering the Lojak locator system. Anybody have this system installed on their car(s) comments??? I have presently a fuel shutoff valve and ignition cutoff switch but that's about it.
Not on mine, but a friend in Corona, Ca. has it on his '59 Elky. Car was stolen last spring. It was found in about 20 minutes before any damage had been done. Car theft isn't a big deal around here, we kind of stick to old fashioned anti-theft systems!!!!!!
We are thinking about Lojak for our rods. You are right about an increase in the amount of stolen cars we are hearing about. How someone can steal a '32 Ford roadster at 2PM, drive it away, and no one sees anything is beyond me. :confused:
I understand the cost of lojak is about $ 1000, not real cheap, but cheaper than losing the whole car. I saw a program on "Cops" one night, and they found a very expensive air compressor (one of the big construction site ones on wheels) inside a garage, because the lojak was sending out a signal.
Anything we can do to protect ourselves against these lowlifes is good.
Don
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Originally Posted by Dave Severson
I kinda like the trunk monkey myself.
Don, that ingersoll compressor you saw on "Cops" that night had the same system we put on all of our compressors and skid steers. Works great and we picked up the Lojack for $550 a piece. Not bad compared to replacing the Rod if it's stolen.
Old dogs may get alzheimers so have some ham with you . No but its really good they cant get it. Theft is getting bad and if that dont get it they damage it trying .
Either Bobby just called us hams (fitting) or old dogs......or is that Alzheimer's kicking in?....:LOL::LOL::LOL:
LOL :3dSMILE:
I'm not sure about the details in installing Lojack units on hot rods, but I can give you some details about the units we install at our "Lojack Authorized" motorcycle dealership. As a company, Lojack is very selective about the type of vehicles that they will allow us to install their units on. For example no ATV's, no Dirt Bikes, no Utility vehicles (Kawasaki Mules, Yamaha Rhinos, etc) can be equipped with Lojacks. They only support the sale of Lojacks in major METRO U.S. population areas, such as Los Angeles. The units are radio frequency based and not satelite (gps) based. This is the reason that the commercial air compressor was found on the Cops Show. Satelite based systems like XM and Serius radio. is based on a line of sight system and will not work if you cover the stolen vehicle. You can't hide a stolen vehicle in a container, trailer, or garage with radio based Lojack system. They require us to hide the system "deep" inside the vehicle to the point that you would need to "take the motorcycle apart" to find the unit. Most likely the reason they will not allow the dirt vehicles is that there is not many places to hide the system compared to on a street bike like a Goldwing. Also dirt riding areas are not covered as well by police with the Lojack tracking systems as compared to city areas. I was very impressed with the all the answers they gave to my many questions during our training. The one thing that I liked is that they have taken the time and expense to develope their system WITH the local police departments in the areas of the country that they market their systems. This system is not going to cover the entire U.S. but it's a good system for the Metro areas and they have a very high recovery rate because they are selective about how, what kind of vehicle, and where the units are installed.
...I do know that they do Hot Rods cuz I called them about it. A $999 one time fee & they would like the car to be finished before they install it. They also give you something that you carry with you when your driving your car. If someone else drives/tows your car away & they don't have this thing {think it's a card or chip or something} the Lojac notifies up to five things between your; cell phone, home phone, e-mails you, text messages you &/or your pager. So if someone moves your car without your permission your notified. The areas they cover are listed on their web site. Another nice thing is that Police cars have the actual tracking units right in their cars. Where as on, for instance, on a Clifford the Clifford Company tracks your car & then notifies police. When I sold cars I went on a Lojac demo. I rode in the 'chase car' & we found the 'not really stollen car' in like 5 minutes......... Bill
After my insurance company significantly increase the values on my 34, I removed all of the anti-theft items, left the doors unlocked in hotel parking lots and still no one takes it! Guess not even low lifes want old Mopars.:eek: :CRY: :CRY: :LOL: :LOL:
Kidding aside, lojack is pricey stuff, but most insurers give discounts to people who have it on their cars. And it is a good value if you cherish your pride and joy. I wonder if they charge more for the product in different areas? A guy I know put it on his new Beemer at a cost of about $600. But then where we are theft is not a major problem. I usually don't lock the cars at night and have been known to leave the garage door open all night.:eek: :D :rolleyes:
we have Lojak on my wife's civic since out here they are popular for theft. haven't had to use it yet, to be honest I don't even recall what we are supposed to do if it gets stolen. they told us at the dealer that they don't even know the location of the lojak unit, the company doesn't tell them where they install it in the car.
My two personal favorite theft deterrents, in order are:
1. Trunk monkey, because it gets the job done but doesn't destroy your car
2. James Bond's explosive system (can't remember which movie). Because I'd rather the car be destroyed, and the person stealing it, than have somebody else enjoying my stuff.
Red
I guess a question I still have in my mind is......do the professional car thieves anticipate the Lojak and take steps to circumvent the system? Can the system be defeated and have the pros figured it out? We've all heard the saying..... if a pro wants your car he's gonna have it and there's nothing you can do to prevent it.
If someone wants your car bad enough all they have to do is jack it up and put two axle dollies under it and tow it away. They can defeat most alarms and then they can strip it elsewhere. A friend of mine had his double walled concrete block garage destroyed in an attempt to steal his Harley. They got it.
Hahahahaha........trunk monkey. I had forgotten all about that one. :LOL: :LOL:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=8avOiTUcD4Y
Don
Sure anything can be defeated, stolen, damaged etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hidebinder
First they have to find the Lojack system, which is the real reason they require it to be installed "deep into" the car and remove the system before a police unit receives the broadcast signal. The new units (Early Warning) are motion sensative and the owner does not need to report it as stolen for the unit to trigger if the owner is not near with the key fob.
Second, the Lojack vehicles do not show a sticker/decal that says, "This vehicle protected by Lojack" so it makes it more difficult for the crook to know which have them and which don't.
It would be hard to defeat a Trunk Monkey equipped with matching 44 mags. Might possibly free of the court system and bring an end to plea bargains too. NO MORE REPEAT OFFENDERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :)
is there a device that can tell if your car has lojak? If lojak can notify you when the car is moved(driven by teen age offspring/ thief) by any one but you, I think its worth the peace of mind. But sometimes the PD has other more pressing issues and may not respond quick enough. How is the unit powered?
I went on Lojaks website and got this info:
How LoJack Works
LoJack to the Rescue
Theft of motor vehicles is a growing global problem. Police and law enforcement agencies around the world use LoJack to track and recover stolen vehicles quickly, often while the thief is still in the vehicle.
LOJACK KEEPS IT CLOSE
More than ninety percent (90%) of all stolen vehicles equipped with the LoJack Stolen Vehicle Recovery System have been recovered, many within a few hours. Due to the record of quick recoveries with LoJack, many insurance companies offer discounts on comprehensive fire, theft, and vandalism premiums for vehicles with LoJack.
LOJACK SYSTEM OVERVIEW
Through an unequaled and highly successful relationship with law enforcement agencies around the country, LoJack is the only provider of stolen vehicle recovery systems that is fully integrated with police. LoJack provides federal, state, county and local law enforcement agencies with special tracking technology enabling police to track and recover your stolen car.
The patented LoJack System includes a small radio frequency transceiver hidden in up to 20 places in a your vehicle. Each LoJack System has a unique code that is tied into the Vehicle Identification Number (VIN). When a theft is reported to the police, a routine entry into the state police crime computer results in a match of the LoJack System's unique code against the state VIN database. This automatically activates the LoJack System in your car, which emits an inaudible signal. Law enforcement authorities who are equipped with LoJack vehicle tracking units - in their police cruisers and aviation units - are always listening for a LoJack signal. Police use the LoJack vehicle tracking units to track and recover your LoJack equipped vehicle.
View Demo on How LoJack Works
You can go on their website, and they have a cool video to watch by clicking on the View Demo on how it works.
www.lojack.com/what/how-lojack-works.cfm#
Don
I think the best you can hope for with any anti-theft system is to keep the honest people honest.... Most I've had (besides Dodger the Dog) is the motion sensor thing that triggers a pager, as Denny mentioned... Besides Dodger, I also have a Ruger that acts as a deterrent..... Nobody wants to mess with long haired old hippies with a gun!!!!:LOL: :LOL: :LOL:
Just leave a note on windshield asking anyone stealing this car to PLEASE feed my pet rattlesnake if you find him in the car.
Years ago my kid's VW was broken into, and they stripped out about $ 5000 worth of stereo equipment. It was a Cal Look bug, with electric doors (no handles) and an alarm system that was so sensitive garbage trucks kept setting it off.
They did it right in our driveway, between 2:30 Am and 5:30 Am, and disabled the alarm by going through a hole in the bottom of the front well that was no bigger than a quarter. Then they removed a rear window, popped the doors, and removed every component. They even took the time to remove screws on terminal blocks, rather that ripping the wires out.
My wife was leaving for work at 5:30 and must have scared them off, because the Recarro bucket seats were left laying there, and a lit flashlight was all they forgot. My Son installed the stereo, and said it would have taken him a couple of days to remove it all, as much of it was under panels and carpeting.
Long story short, I tracked them down, but they had moved to Cookesville Tennessee. The Sheriff there said he would pick them up, just get a warrant. Our local DA refused, saying it would cost too much to extradite them back to Florida.............too small of a case, and no one was killed.
That's why these guys keep doing it. Even when caught, nothing or very little happens to them. :( :( :(
Don
It would if my snake caught them,hehe
Now, I cannot verify the truth of this story, I only relate it as told to me and my stepfather by the guy that claimed to have served time for it.
Guy had a little truck, nissan/mitsu variety. not in great shape, not worth a lot of money. basic blue collar guy, didn't have a lot, but wanted to protect what he did have (interject here that he also had his house booby trapped and sounded a bit like somebody you'd expect to live by a swamp ala the movies).
he worked in a metal shop, one day took a piece of rod, sharpened the end like a arrow (i.e. goes in one way, don't come out easy) and attache dit to a flat base, the right height to fit under his truck seat. he would put it under there at night. sure enough somebody tried to steal his truck, sat right on it, went through the seat and right into their anus. the firefighters couldn't pull him off and had to end up removing the seat then cutting it from the base to take him in for surgery. Judge didn't find it ammusing and gave him I think 18 months in jail. Personally I think the thief got what he deserved and the other guy should have been given an award of some sort.
Red
Some years ago a shop owner in Miami had been broken into numerous times, so he rigged a shotgun with a trip wire to a window where they had been coming in. This lowlife breaks in, and you guessed it, he got blasted. However, the shopowner was charged with manslaughter.
If I were the Judge, I would have bought him some more ammo. :cool: :cool:
Don
[QUOTE=DennyW]That's a great idea !!!
Hey, you can get Trunk Monkey Stickers. :LOL: :LOL:
Some good stuff there but I would like to see a window sticker that you could put in the lower corner, kinda low key, maybe 3/4"x3", and would say something like "Warning - This vehicle equipped with a trunkmonkey anti-vehicle theft system"
That's where a lot of people screw up when they shoot these low lifes.....Got to remember to properly dispose of the body.....
that's what I love about texas, I think in texas both of these guys would have been given awards. I watched a thing one time, they were saying one of the most dangerous jobs in texas was repo man because if they were on the persons property and the owner started shooting it was their neck on the line. they take personal property very serious there ( or so I hear). anybody here from texas? I've got a good joke for you.
Red