Hot Rod Snobs!

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Originally Posted by DennyW

Make that over 60, cause I didn't get it, and I'm in my 50's...:LOL: :LOL: Or maybe....it was all the schools I went to, and missed it...:LOL:

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Youngster!!!!

Illegitimi non carborundum - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

llegitimi non carborundum is a mock-Latin aphorism jokingly taken to mean "don't let the bastards grind you down". There are many variants of the phrase, such as

* Nil illegitimi carborundum.
* Non illegitimis carborundum.
* Illegitimi nil carborundum.
* Non illegitimi carborundum.
* Nil bastardo carborundum.
* Nolite te bastardes carborundorum.
* Illegitimis non carborundum.
* Illegitimus non carborundum est.
* Nil illegitimo in desperandum carborundum

None of the above is correct Latin. Carborundum is not a Latin word but the name of a mineral which is extremely hard and used for grinding. (see silicon carbide article). The ending -undum suggests either a Latin gerund or gerundive form--and the idea of obligation ("Don't let ...") is more suggestive of the gerundive--but the word is actually a portmanteau of "carbon" (from Latin), and "corundum" (from Tamil kurundam).

Illegitimi suggests illegitimate to the English speaker, or bastardo likewise, but the Latin for bastard is actually nothus (from the Greek word notho (νόθο) meaning not-pure, and used when referring to a bastard whose father is known) or spurius (for a bastard whose father is unknown). The forms with nil may be formed partly on the pattern of the genuine Latin phrase Nil desperandum.

The phrase originated during World War II. Lexicographer Eric Partridge attributes it to British army intelligence very early in the war (in the plural illegitimis). The phrase was adopted by US Army general "Vinegar" Joe Stillwell as his motto during the war.[1] It was later further popularized in the US by 1964 presidential candidate Barry Goldwater.[2] The United States submarine USS Tunny (SSN-682) uses it as the ship motto. The weekly Alaskan newspaper 'The Nome Nugget' uses it as a motto, as does the Whitehorse Daily Star, in the capital of the Yukon Territory.

Henry Beard in his 1991 book Latin for Even More Occasions (chapter I) offered some correct Latin for the sentiment, but did so in a section "Dopey Exhortations Are More Forceful in Latin", which might be his comment on the merit of the expression.

Don't let the bastards wear you down.
Noli nothis permittere te terere.

Actually closer to legalese (fake or dirty) Latin than real Latin. First time I heard the phrase was about 1963.

And DennyW, I was going to say 60, but didn't want to exclude any of you youngsters that may have heard it before.:LOL: :LOL:

And a bit more in that same line.

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Originally Posted by HOSS429

i offered many times to bring my stuff and put in on the stage if i could do so without paying the entry fee and told them dont bother judging my junk ,, i just wanted to help field a good show ..

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I am sure I am not reading or understanding your point here. Is it you want to be in the car show that makes no money, but will enter if you do not have to pay? ...................... novel idea, just think how things would work if everybody did the same.
As to car shows I go, pay the entrance fee, which I agree with an above post is nothing more then a get a good parking spot fee. Move around see the stuff, observe the builds and their engineering, sit for a while, smoke a cigar and leave when board. The board needle on the boring meter usually pegs out at the time all the egos get in gear and start going over their acceptance speeches. Snobs are snobs and they hang out with the snob friends, who cares when all is said and done. If someone likes what I have put together fine and thanks, I will happily give out any helpful information you might like to have. Someone mention a sarcastic remark from a car show observer on the size of a weld bead, I find that most that come off like that do not know what end of a screwdriver to hold. TV has these folks all thinking we build this stuff in a week or two, so what the heck can anybody expect from TV watchers ............

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Originally Posted by pepi

I am sure I am not reading or understanding your point here. Is it you want to be in the car show that makes no money, but will enter if you do not have to pay? ...................... novel idea, just think how things would work if everybody did the same.
As to car shows I go, pay the entrance fee, which I agree with an above post is nothing more then a get a good parking spot fee. Move around see the stuff, observe the builds and their engineering, sit for a while, smoke a cigar and leave when board. The board needle on the boring meter usually pegs out at the time all the egos get in gear and start going over their acceptance speeches. Snobs are snobs and they hang out with the snob friends, who cares when all is said and done. If someone likes what I have put together fine and thanks, I will happily give out any helpful information you might like to have. Someone mention a sarcastic remark from a car show observer on the size of a weld bead, I find that most that come off like that do not know what end of a screwdriver to hold. TV has these folks all thinking we build this stuff in a week or two, so what the heck can anybody expect from TV watchers ............

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Nah, I think all he was trying to say was he'd bring in a bunch of his cars to help make the show bigger/better. More cars at event to represent a bigger turnout, kinda help draw the crowd. He didn't want to pay and/ or have his cars judged. He just wanted to help the organizers. (that was my take on it!)

Actually some SNOB on here earlier this week decided I must be a TWERP because I was screwing up the hobby by my preference in useing a SBF in my 34 rather than what he thought was cool, like an old Buick or Firedome. They just want to impart their preferences and opinions of cool on all the rest. Not sure why they can't understand that we have other choices or definitions of cool and we're not screwing up the world! If he wants to build his car with an old Buick, GREAT! That's not what I want!

[QUOTE=Bob Parmenter]Part II:

Let's look at Joe "store bought" for a moment. He's somewhere between 30 and 60 years of age, he's got a family, a kid or so at home, or maybe just left the nest. He's worked hard for a number of years, and progressed in his chosen field, might even own his own business and all the responsibilities that accompany that. He's knocking down pretty good coin now. When he was a young, less affluent stud, he used to scrounge used parts to keep his heap going, so he's not unfamiliar with the junk yard scene. But now he's in a position in life where he feels in control of things to a degree where he can indulge his fantasies. Being reasonably intelligent, he knows the lace stocking fantasies could cost him more than he's willing to risk, so he chooses the (as he believes) safer distraction of that hot rod he's dreamt about for oh so many years. He takes a rational look at how much time and effort he can dedicate to this re-emerging hot rod interest and realizes that he has far more on his plate than he did when he last "played with cars". What does he do? He looks at the value of his time, and the way he has to allocate that precious commodity (a funny thing happens as you mature, you realize you have less time left, and therefore value the remainder more highly). Does he spend time scrounging the yards, or ebay, or the local swap meets, only to buy used parts that have some unknown remaining life span, and will require more time to clean up, refurbish, and then modify to fit the unintended application? Or does he exchange his money, which he earned doing what he does best, for the products supplied by someone else who does that best (that's called an economy)? And, in doing so, he saves some of that valuable commodity called time. QUOTE]


damn!! how long ago was this written....at this moment in time this description fits me to the "T" right now im 34......got married couple years ago, have a 1 year old, plus buying a house:) ....then fixing house:o , i grew up around hot rods so its in my blood........dont have very much time now a days......previous old cars were half assed together and i didnt trust them to take me out of my area code......

but now my hot rod priorities have changed from years ago......i need a safe hot rod the wife can drive with the kid, without having her get out to touch a screw driver to the started cyliniod to start the car......or put duct tape on the window when its raining....you know how it gets.......

i would like to state that i am not a SNOB , i cant help it that im the coolest MoFo in the country , after all i got the cars! the trophys , the hair! and the excellent manly good looks ..

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Originally Posted by flh4speed

i would like to state that i am not a SNOB , i cant help it that im the coolest MoFo in the country , after all i got the cars! the trophys , the hair! and the excellent manly good looks ..

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You might want to get your meds dosage rechecked Kenny!

:eek: :LOL:

You forgot the trophy wife!:3dSMILE: :CRY:

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Originally Posted by stovens

You forgot the trophy wife!:3dSMILE: :CRY:

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i gots that as well .. haha:D

Man, the first liar don't have a chance on this thread!!!!!