Where do I find aluminum or stainless grating to fab a shaker hood? I don't even know where to start looking.
Thanks,
- Joey
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Where do I find aluminum or stainless grating to fab a shaker hood? I don't even know where to start looking.
Thanks,
- Joey
Try a structural steel fabricator in your area, talk to someone in the design department. They should be able to point you to a grating manufacturer who supplies grating for walkways, platforms, etcetera.
:cool: Thanks!
Don't want to sound too dumb, but what the heck is a shaker hood? I've been wondering ever since I answered your post the other day.
I have been informed that I was not using the right terminology; I do not want to build a "shaker hood" per se. I thought that a "shaker hood" referred to a hole in the hood through which the engine was free to rattle back and forth. Have mercy on me; I'm new at this.
What I have is a hole in my hood that's roughly triangular, 15" on a side, with a black fiberglass hood scoop over it. (I did not do this; the car was previously owned by a madman.)
The engine I'm building will project through the hood about 10", and will have a Hilborn-style scoop 20" long and 9" wide. What I want to do is open up the hole in the hood to the dimensions of the scoop. This will make it about 6" wider than the scoop on each side. Probably a bit more, as the current hole is off- centered on the hood by about 1/2".
I was thinking to use some grating-type material -- expanded metal -- either tack-welded or riveted to the underside of the hood, to close the gap a few inches on each side. I still don't know the exact term for this. Besides, of course, "lunacy," "sacrilege," or "rat rod."
Maybe I can help---what you want is "decorative expanded metal", or just "expanded metal" When people talk about grating, they generally mean bar grating which is used to support people as in overhead walkways and platforms, etcetera. That is why I suggested a structural steel company. If I was going to attempt what you are talking about, I would take a length of 5/16" diameter or 3/8" diameter hot rolled round bar, and form it to the inside size that you want the opening in your hood to be, then butt weld the ends of it together to make a closed shape. Then take a larger peice of the expanded metal, cut a hole in it the size of the inside space surrounded by the round bar, and weld it to the round bar to give the edge a nicely finished look, then let the outside edges of the expanded metal extend back under the inside of the hood hole and weld it on the inside of the hood. To find a source for the "decorative expanded metal" do an internet search.
Thanks Denny--O.K. a hood with a hole cut in it and the induction system sticking up thru it I am familiar with. I just didn't know that it was called a "shaker" hood. Musta been all those weird thangs I smoked in the 70's
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Originally posted by Was_II
I have been informed that I was not using the right terminology; I do not want to build a "shaker hood" per se. I thought that a "shaker hood" referred to a hole in the hood through which the engine was free to rattle back and forth. Have mercy on me; I'm new at this.
What I have is a hole in my hood that's roughly triangular, 15" on a side, with a black fiberglass hood scoop over it. (I did not do this; the car was previously owned by a madman.)
The engine I'm building will project through the hood about 10", and will have a Hilborn-style scoop 20" long and 9" wide. What I want to do is open up the hole in the hood to the dimensions of the scoop. This will make it about 6" wider than the scoop on each side. Probably a bit more, as the current hole is off- centered on the hood by about 1/2".
I was thinking to use some grating-type material -- expanded metal -- either tack-welded or riveted to the underside of the hood, to close the gap a few inches on each side. I still don't know the exact term for this. Besides, of course, "lunacy," "sacrilege," or "rat rod."
sounds like to me a madman sold the car to a lunatic. whats a car suppose to think? :HMMM: :whacked: :LOL: :LOL:
sorry was2 couldnt let it go, hope you didnt mind.
why not just center the hole and leave it alone?
:D:LOL:
You guys are seriously great. Thank you.
hey denny what did the cop do run out of town a few days?:LOL:Quote:
Originally posted by DennyW
:) No problem on the helping. I try hard, hahaha.:)
i think thats what hes talking about brianrupnow in a diamond shape maybe. :cool:Quote:
Originally posted by brianrupnow
Maybe I can help---what you want is "decorative expanded metal", or just "expanded metal" When people talk about grating, they generally mean bar grating which is used to support people as in overhead walkways and platforms, etcetera. That is why I suggested a structural steel company. If I was going to attempt what you are talking about, I would take a length of 5/16" diameter or 3/8" diameter hot rolled round bar, and form it to the inside size that you want the opening in your hood to be, then butt weld the ends of it together to make a closed shape. Then take a larger peice of the expanded metal, cut a hole in it the size of the inside space surrounded by the round bar, and weld it to the round bar to give the edge a nicely finished look, then let the outside edges of the expanded metal extend back under the inside of the hood hole and weld it on the inside of the hood. To find a source for the "decorative expanded metal" do an internet search.
I would, except:Quote:
Originally posted by lt1s10
why not just center the hole and leave it alone?
A.) The planned dual-quad hi-rise tunnel ram and scoop won't fit through it :D ;
B.) It's already too big for the existing fiberglass cowl-induction scoop (I had to move the scoop 1/2" to the right to cover the entire hole; the guy had it not only off-center but canted about 10 degrees CCW)
and C.) It's a freakin' Mustang II and hoods are hard to come by. I have one more in case I bungle this one.
So what it comes down to is when you get through cutting a new hole in the hood to accommodate you new tunnel ram and scoop that you have, you will need to fill in some of the old hole that's in there now and you don't wont to use body filler or fiberglass to do it with. you wont to use some type of "decorative expanded metal"? you have to forgive some of us old gezzeers some times we'er just a little slow. :LOL:Quote:
Originally posted by Was_II
I would, except:
A.) The planned dual-quad hi-rise tunnel ram and scoop won't fit through it :D ;
B.) It's already too big for the existing fiberglass cowl-induction scoop (I had to move the scoop 1/2" to the right to cover the entire hole; the guy had it not only off-center but canted about 10 degrees CCW)
and C.) It's a freakin' Mustang II and hoods are hard to come by. I have one more in case I bungle this one.
By the time you get through making the hole big enough for the tunnel ram and scoop (not to mention the legnth of the hole to get the hood up and down if your going to leave it hinged) your not going to have much of a hood left.
Why not just leave the hood hanging on the garage wall and run it without a hood?
C'mon -- where's the fun in that?Quote:
Originally posted by Mike P
Why not just leave the hood hanging on the garage wall and run it without a hood?
Besides, I have to be able to park this sucker on the street -- it's going to be my gig car (I'm a sax player in a 40's-50's jump blues band.) On that, I'm open to suggestions as to how to lock the scoop & carbs down. . . .
The scoop has a much larger footprint -- 9X20" -- than the tunnel ram will have as it crosses the plane of the hood. If the hood truly levered directly up and down, theoretically I could cut it exactly to fit. But of course it doesn't; the hood latches curve outward as it goes up, so I'll have to make the hole longer. How much longer, I'm not entirely sure, but I'm fairly certain I'll have enough metal left. It works out on paper.Quote:
By the time you get through making the hole big enough for the tunnel ram and scoop (not to mention the legnth of the hole to get the hood up and down if your going to leave it hinged) your not going to have much of a hood left.
Of course, this is the moment where Wile E. Coyote discovers that the tunnel is only painted on the canyon wall. . . .
Way off thread and straight out of the useless information department but down in this part of the world a "shaker" hood is what was on the old Aussie Ford classic,a GTHO Falcon also known as a "Shaker" due to the fact that when the engine was revved the scoop would move or "shake".The car was made in the early 70's ran a hot 351 cleveland and,so i am told,was the fastest four door production car at that time.
Cheers KIWI:cool:
In all honesty, I would be seriously concerned about comming out of the club one night and finding the carbs and scoop gone. From personal experience it's not a lot of fun to have a car and be somewhere that you feel you need to go out and look at it every 5 minuets.
Also the set up your talking about is not real good on rainy nights.
The setup I used to run was much lower. THe braces you see on the front of the air cleaner not only stabilized the scoop at high speed, but the 1/4 X20 screws that hold the scoop to the front braces were philips head and double nutted on the bottom (which you couldn't get to with the hood closed).
MY solution would be to find a hood scoop that will cover the entire assembly to keep for those nights you are working or when you have to drive it when the weathers not so great, and run without a hood when you want to show off.
As you can see my set up only had the scoop exposed when the hood was closed, and was a lot shorter than what your talking about.
Wow, another II. Nice one!
I may have to rig some sort of locking mechanism, depending on how far the carbs are exposed. Worst case, you're right; I have the spare hood and I can just throw an el cheapo snorkel on it. It wouldn't be nearly as cool, though.
Keep everything stock lookings........Yeah, not cool at all....
Make a balanced .040 over 351W look stock and paint the edelbrock intake and aluminum heads stock ford blue and port a set of stock manifolds. Even put a 302 decal on the air cleaner. Nobody from the outside will be able to see the 4 speed (top loader) or the posi in the 8" housing. .......
Wanna Race:LOL: :LOL: :LOL:
> Yes, I love the sleeper mode, hahaha.
It has its place but this is not it. This heap is my first hot rod, and I want to make the fact that it IS a hot rod audaciously obvious. I want to roll through a parking lot at closing time and get equal numbers of thumbs-ups and middle fingers from guys in tricolor Hondas. I want my cutouts to drown out their subwoofers. I want my chipped-and-downpiped, spoon-chested-mama's-boy, neon-undercarriage Hilfi-gangsta contemporaries to not even CONSIDER street racing me. I want dual quads towering from the hood and flames shooting out the tailpipes. I want to rule by fear.
then you need a 6-71 blower sticking through that hood instead of that tunnel ram Was_II. i used to run blowers on the st and i used a snap on cover to cover up the carbs. and blower when it rained, but that wouldnt help with the stealing part. looks like to me you gonna have to cover the carbs with some kind of scoop. :cool:Quote:
Originally posted by Was_II
> Yes, I love the sleeper mode, hahaha.
It has its place but this is not it. This heap is my first hot rod, and I want to make the fact that it IS a hot rod audaciously obvious. I want to roll through a parking lot at closing time and get equal numbers of thumbs-ups and middle fingers from guys in tricolor Hondas. I want my cutouts to drown out their subwoofers. I want my chipped-and-downpiped, spoon-chested-mama's-boy, neon-undercarriage Hilfi-gangsta contemporaries to not even CONSIDER street racing me. I want dual quads towering from the hood and flames shooting out the tailpipes. I want to rule by fear.
looks like to me you gonna have to cover the carbs with some kind of scoop.
I have a Hilborn-style scoop to stick on top; I like MikeP's idea of fabbing some kind of hold-down bars to bolt the scoop to the block or manifold beneath the hood. If I just make it enough of a PITA to remove with the hood closed it will probably deter most evildoers. The alarm will help as well, I'm sure.
A 6:71 is in the works but will have to wait; that's Phase IV. This is only Phase II. Phase III will be a rebuild with a 347 stroker kit -- my big purchase for 2005. That, and the tailpipe flamethrowers.
The Tailpipe Flamethrowers would be a good name for a band.
Quick update:
Brainstorming the other night about the hood grating and methods of locking down the carbs / scoop, came the idea to close the hole with a few strands of barbed wire, tack-welded to the underside of the hood. That would be in keeping with the Rat Rod aesthetic and would sure as hell keep ill-intentioned hands off the carb studs. . .. :LOL:
Just hook a capasitor up to the thing a real big 1 like they use fer the boom boom.KkKKKerZZap and that sets the alarm off and they run!!!!or get some specialty bolts with a funny head on them like square drive or sumthin so it takes 2 flat head screw driversa hex wrench and a square drive to get it off!!! lock tight is good stuff too!!