Thread: Office of the President of the USA

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It isn't your point that madders so much, but the point that so many news peeps, politicians talk the Full Automatic, Machine Gun line for gun control issues that the stories get slanted so far from what actually happened how to a rambling river of BS that diverts attention away from real facts/issues that then never get cleared up in the heads of so many----------

well actually this thread was started by me back in August about the OFFICE of the PRESIDENT of the UNITED STATES of AMERICA-----------

and you are going back on my ignore list--------

would you have prefered he detonated a large bomb .. or flew a small aircraft into the crowd .. or released some kind of poison .. you are not going to take the intent away from a mad man by taking away a few of his methods .. unarm the masses and masses more will be be killed ...

I've been avoiding this thread because as Seth said

".......Usually on these topics your just preaching to the choir or trying to change somebody's mind that will not change........"


That being said, this will likely be my only post on the matter. I came across this food for thought piece earlier this morning and thought I'd post the link for anyone interested.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...=.98d6836b19bf


As far as banning bump fire stocks, I wouldn't necessarily be against it but as far as keeping them out of the publics' hands that ship has already sailed.

Last night one of the national news commentators was discussing how easily bump stocks could be purchased and quoted a ridiculously low price for them. I like to do my own fact checking so I went to a couple of sites I buy ammo from to verify the cost. Guess what....every place I checked showed them out of stock. Which means that they are truly sold out and will sell everyone they can get their hands on, or they have pulled all their stock and are holding it until just before the ban goes into effect and will make a huge profit on them. Frankly banning them will probably put more of them in circulation that doing nothing.

Even though I suspect they will probably be be banned in the near future, it doesn't mean that they won't be available to anyone who really wants one or even several. The programing for making them with a 3D printer is already available on line.



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Not much comment here except what makes someone think that when someone is going to do something illegal (shoot people) they are going to for me some crazy reason be legal and abide by the law on a weapons purchase??? Yeah drugs are illegal and they have gone away........right
Do people really think that criminals make sure their car registration and insurance is up to date when they do a drive by?? Criminals simply are criminals because they DON'T obey laws, don't think they will when they are passed!
I dont try to rationalize sick people that can't be rationalized and laws wont make them any less sick or less dangerous

i agree 100% stovens. I sincerely believe the news media of this nation perpetuates 90% of the hype (mostly false and negative) in this country and its sad, really sad man. I keep my head in the sand and don't even have, subscribe to, or watch tv anymore. I do have a tv but its only good to just watch movies, else i read or work in my garage or work outside. As to guns, unless they've grown brains or artificial intelligence, last time i checked its people that kill people, which is unfortunate as well. I agree, how one was raised and the paths he or she takes in life, tells the tale in most cases.

Originally Posted by Evolvo

Where is this river of BS that you speak of? A man with a stash of rapid fire guns holed up in a hotel room, broke out two windows and used his weapons to fire on and kill 58 innocent people and wound over 500 innocent people who were all hoping to have an enjoyable evening at a country music concert.

Have I misconstrued what happened that night? Is this just the BS we have to accept as normal in order to protect your right to bear arms?

I take it that logic, rationale, reasoning, common sense, reality, philosophy, lessons gained from guys like Descartes, mathematics, the US Constitution, history, ethics, human psychology, probabilities and statistics, etc etc are unfamiliar concepts to you...makes me more glad and fortunate that i got my education and perspectives from real life and real people,

Originally Posted by jerry clayton

well actually this thread was started by me back in August about the OFFICE of the PRESIDENT of the UNITED STATES of AMERICA--

Thanks Jerry, now about the President........where's the wall and why is Killary not in jail ??????????? These were two of the main issues that caused me to vote for Trump in the first place.
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Tech-even I want to know about the wall and Hillary-------But I didn't start thread for political reasons but for respect for the Office of The President-I think when someone walks in that office that politics should be over and he (she?) is seen as the leader of the greatest nation on this planet----but instead of that-its been about golf, vacations, for as long as I can remember (back to Ike's days) ( at least Ike ended a war that is about to be restarted and also built the interstate highway system, also Air Force One became a continuing controversy, etc,etc-- audio recorders and video cameras in the Oval Office----

More dangerous than guns are computer and phone keyboards

if we ad a gun problem we would know without a doubt seeing how there are around 4 mil guns here. it's not about gun control it is about control. to install a fascist government you must first disarm the populist . dependence , disarm and dominate. we all read about this in history and civics .

Originally Posted by Evolvo

So today is my 69th b-day. So I'm going to ban myself for a long while and stand with the majority of Americans who want safe and sane gun laws. Enjoy yourselves!

Well, happy birthday anyway. Both sides have valid arguments, just depends on what angle your looking at. I think there has been enough discussion on this that both sides can agree to disagree and vote how you feel.

Originally Posted by Evolvo

So today is my 69th b-day. So I'm going to ban myself for a long while and stand with the majority of sheep who want safe and sane gun laws. Enjoy yourselves!

Fixed it for you! There already are safe and sane gun laws. It isn't our fault you can't read, or comprehend. You just see what you want to see and blame the machine.

Now, speaking of vacations, we'll be paying for Obama's 8 years of vacations for how long? Way longer than 8 years!

Happy Birthday, have a good one.

Originally Posted by 53 Chevy5

Well, happy birthday anyway. Both sides have valid arguments, just depends on what angle your looking at. I think there has been enough discussion on this that both sides can agree to disagree and vote how you feel.

Good show everyone, great self-control and Mr. Mustang didn't have to put a padlock on it !!!! Where else but ClubHotRod could you turn so many strong personalities loose and still have the walls standing at the conclusion?
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Originally Posted by Evolvo

So today is my 69th b-day. So I'm going to ban myself for a long while and stand with the majority of Americans who want safe and sane gun laws. Enjoy yourselves!

Just to show you that I'm a good sport, I'll give you the traditional birthday song.........

Happy birthday to you,
Happy birthday to you,
Happy birthday dear Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee-volvo,
Happy birthday to you.
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