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From a Brietbart article:

"The NFL rule book specifically requires both teams appear on the field for the playing of the anthem, standing, remaining quiet,*and holding their helmets in their left hands. Failure to do so can result in fines, suspensions, and the loss of draft picks.*

The rules are found on pages A62-63 of the league’s*game operations manual:

The National Anthem must be played prior to every NFL game, and all players must be on the sideline for the National Anthem.

During the National Anthem, players on the field and bench area should stand at attention, face the flag, hold helmets in their left hand, and refrain from talking. The home team should ensure that the American flag is in good condition. *It should be pointed out to players and coaches that we continue to be judged by the public in this area of respect for the flag and our country. Failure to be on the field by the start of the National Anthem may result in discipline, such as fines, suspensions, and/or the forfeiture of draft choice(s) for violations of the above, including first offenses."

Originally Posted by Evolvo

Brietbart, huh, sorry but that's fake news:

Are NFL Players Required to Stand on the Field During the National Anthem?

Anyone who gets their news from Brietbart already knows what they want to hear. SAD!

No, it's not "fake news", but it is worded poorly, as is the Snopes response. The "Rules" of the game deal with the flow of the game, penalties, and issues that are controlled by the referees, umpires, etc. The NFL's Game Operations Manual deals with everything else involved in the production of the event, including addressing the concept of fines for teams, players and even owners, and the statement from pages A62 and 63 is correct as written. If it were that the USA were a contributing sponsor to the NFL, we wouldn't have the problem. Anyone not showing due respect to the flag during the National Anthem would have been out of the game, or paying for their bad decision.

In 2009, Barack Obama's Department of Defense began paying hundreds of thousands towards teams in a marketing strategy designed to show support for the troops and increase recruitments. The NFL then required all players and personnel to be on the sidelines during the national anthem, in exchange for taxpayers dollars. Prior, the national anthem was played in the stadium but players had the option of staying in the locker room before heading out to the field.

Furthermore, teams that showed "Veteran's Salutes" during games were paid upwards of $5.1 million dollars. In total, 6.8 million in taxpayer money was doled out to sports teams - mostly NFL teams - for so-called "paid patriotism."

Zero hedge-

Well it seems that a lot of team owners would beg to differ and their rules are what they go by. I bet there will be rules in the NFL books soon though!

DIRECTV has amended its rules, allowing refunds on Sunday NFL lineup, provided the customer cite players protest as reason.

The sponsors are pulling out!

Came across this on facebook.......interesting.......

Yuri Bezmenov by onmyway02 - Dailymotion

The only thing that might save America now would be civil war, with the patriots winning.
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Originally Posted by Evolvo

Tech, you asked me a ? a few posts ago about what kind of country I would want if I had the power to make it happen. I gave you a truthful answer. You never took the time to respond and tell me if you agreed or not.

Now you're advocating armed conflict on the streets of America. Are you out of you're mind?

Who are these patriots you speak of? Are they the people who believe America is a country where only white people belong, or are they the people who believe that EVERYONE in this country has the right to "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness"?

Here's a thought:
If every American is required to stand when they hear the National Anthem you don't live in the "Land of the Free"

And if you're afraid to take a knee when it's played you don't live in "The home of the brave"

If you want to live in a country where everyone is required to stand for the National anthem move to North Korea!

I hope that someday I get to meet you in person.......
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Originally Posted by techinspector1

I hope that someday I get to meet you in person.......
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Road trip, whenever you're ready or as soon as I get back from DC.

i'll help with bail tech .

And if you're afraid to take a knee when it's played you don't live in "The home of the brave"

While your land of the free statement is true as I see it, I don't think taking a knee is what it's saying with the Home of the Brave. I would call that more of a protest of not getting your way. I would take the gamble that there isn't one of those guys taking a knee during our anthem that has ever enlisted in any armed force or any other underpaid job that may involve any sort of sacrifice for their country. Sacrifice, I would say that is more of what it means with the Home of the Brave.

It ws always a very sombering thing to pilot a flight that was flying home one of those flag draped coffins for there last time--------

On this road trip we took over the last week and half-----Flight 93 site in Pa,Gettysburg, Philly for Liberty Bell, Consitution and Declaration ------Wash DC for Mt. Verdan, Arlington National Cemetary for changing of the guard plus wreath laying for flight of honor guys, JFK family grave site, (some sites/monuments closed for restoration-Iwo Jima and others) drive around DC, Air and Space Museum( on Saturday so parking available) Montocello--------

It was a week of get up, brakfast and get going----respect, respect, respect-----

Originally Posted by jerry clayton

On this road trip we took over the last week and half-----Flight 93 site in Pa,Gettysburg, Philly for Liberty Bell, Consitution and Declaration ------Wash DC for Mt. Verdan, Arlington National Cemetary for changing of the guard plus wreath laying for flight of honor guys, JFK family grave site, (some sites/monuments closed for restoration-Iwo Jima and others) drive around DC, Air and Space Museum( on Saturday so parking available) Montocello--------

It was a week of get up, brakfast and get going----respect, respect, respect-----

We're strangers in your country; but on various trips we too have visited many of these sites.
Another site we visited was to show that eternal vigilance is needed to protect what you Americans have from those who would seek to destroy it.
The Alfred P Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City.
That was very emotional.

Americans: What you have is extremely valuable.
Guard it.
Don't let the haters like Timothy McVeigh destroy it.

And as for evolvo...if I owned the ocean I wouldn't give him even a wave.

you can not instill pride or patriotism in a socialists who's only goal is to destroy the constitution and the country.

Originally Posted by Evolvo

And if you're afraid to take a knee when it's played you don't live in "The home of the brave"

If you want to live in a country where everyone is required to stand for the National anthem move to North Korea!

I've got a huge problem with this! If this is how you truly feel then I'll help buy a ticket on a slow boat across the pond for you to get the fu*k out! Standing for the national anthem is more about respect for the flag and those who have lost their lives fighting to protect the freedoms we do have!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If it weren't for them we wouldn't have the rights and privileges we do have. You sure love the freedom of speech one. Where I come from, you're free to say what you want until someone shuts you up. All these people want to bit*h and moan about millennials, anyone stop and think that these whiny ass people crying about all of this sh*t instead of working hard and achieving goals on your own, raised these millennials?

Or how about all of the veterans and people that are serving to keep evil away? You don't believe kneeling for the National Anthem doesn't bother them? To me that is a huge slap in the face from these kneelers. If you want to make a statement, there are better ways. Especially for a multi million making professional!

I don't totally agree with Trump's words or actions all the time, but don't disrespect the country while trying to prove who's lives matter. That isn't the time or place IMO!