well he gave up already found out having a baby! so picked it all up from him, will stash the parts for another day. i am bringing the old nova motor out of mothballs to put in my 85 hatchback mustang. it will be good this time around. jerry i still have the cam card, having that cam reground per specs on card paired with shaft rockers, aluminum 200cc runner heads 64cc chamber angle plug new set of rods, 5k stall should be a little better this time around with "the right parts"