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Officially only one American on that boat, four Kiwi's, one Pom, and some Aussie arsehole wipes. I honestly believe that the true winner of the America's Cup was Ellison and his money and not really the skill of the yachtsmen. The question one has to ask now is..... is this the end of the Cup due too nobody in the world will or can afford to compete against a rich cheating arsehole like Ellison ? We had a budget of hundred million American dollars and had to watch every dollar, Ellison flew 14 boat designers / builders up from New Zealand when they where losing races to hotrod their boat at what expense ? We did lose to a better boat but I wouldn't say we lost to a better crew. And for all you who ain't aware, three of those boats, Team ENZ, Team Oracle, and Team Alinghi were build in New Zealand. So again, the question is, who in the world will be able to compete with Larry Ellison's money to be able to design, build and then compete honestly on the water with that man. No one, maybe it is time to get back to basics with a mono hull yacht with absolutely no computerized hydrualic systems and it is the crews ability to get the best out of the boat to win races. Anyway this is just my opinion and yes, I am a bit pissed about the whole scene over there and yes I do come from a sailing heritage although I will freely admit I'm no expert.

Originally Posted by Whiplash23T

The question one has to ask now is..... is this the end of the Cup due too nobody in the world will or can afford to compete against a rich cheating arsehole like Ellison ? We had a budget of hundred million American dollars and had to watch every dollar, Ellison flew 14 boat designers / builders up from New Zealand when they where losing races to hotrod their boat at what expense ?
Anyway this is just my opinion and yes, I am a bit pissed about the whole scene over there and yes I do come from a sailing heritage although I will freely admit I'm no expert.

Robin, All your comments had me in stitches! Since I live some 20 minutes from Newport Rhode Island, the home (originally) for the cup, I have a whole different perspective on the topic. From here, we still remember when the Aussie's / Zeelander's "cheated" to "steal" the cup from us! With their zillion dollar hull and radical "stretching" of the rules and interpretations.... Yes, there are many here who are laughing long and hard that turn-about has finally happened and we feel vindicated!

Maybe now it could get back to "simple" 12 meter yachts as described in the original rules...??..??

Originally Posted by 34_40

Robin, All your comments had me in stitches! Since I live some 20 minutes from Newport Rhode Island, the home (originally) for the cup, I have a whole different perspective on the topic. From here, we still remember when the Aussie's / Zeelander's "cheated" to "steal" the cup from us! With their zillion dollar hull and radical "stretching" of the rules and interpretations.... Yes, there are many here who are laughing long and hard that turn-about has finally happened and we feel vindicated!

Maybe now it could get back to "simple" 12 meter yachts as described in the original rules...??..??

It is Mark I think the above comment is aimed at, me, Well I believe you should do a search on the Wikipedia site to educate yourself all about the cheating please sir. Australia won the cup from New York and it hasn't been back since as when Dirty Dennis won it back it was return to the San Diego Yacht Club on the other coast and where it is now but up the coast a wee bit. As for cheating I would also suggest you read up on the history of the cup before slinging mud please. Even Michael Fays " Big Boat " challenge was by the rule book as fought through the courts.