Help identifying car and truck

Hi everybody. I've been going thru some old family photos hoping to find some pictures of my folks cars from over the years, but so far have not had any luck with that. I did across these 2 pictures and was wondering if anyone could help me figure out year and make.

The first is a picture is from my dads side and is of my Great Grandparents and my Grandpa (crouched by tire) and a couple of great Aunts. Model T maybe?

http://i450.photobucket.com/albums/q...s8c4cceaa.jpeg


The next is my Great Granddads (moms side) dairy truck.

http://i450.photobucket.com/albums/q...s0920ad35.jpeg

Thanks

Boy Mike, you've got a couple of toughies there. That was a time in history when the automotive world was busting at the seams with hundreds of "manufacturers" (many were more like assemblers, not unlike the '90s were in the computer world). Just to get the obvious out of the way, neither are Fords. I don't have time right now to spend doing searches, but some hints for you.....

The touring is from the mid teens based on the shape of the body components. Unfortunately the family is blocking the stuff that might make the search easier. It does have suicide doors both front and rear, so that's somewhat unique for identification purposes.

The milk truck has thrown me a curve. The overall styling and the wooden spoke wheels put it somewhere mid to late '20s. The A pillar and visor details remind me a lot of Chevrolet, but a quick search of pics show the reveals on Chevs of that period are different. Not Dodge either. I couldn't quickly find any International pics, but that could be worth your time to look.

Thanks Bob I appreciate it. I spent some time looking at so far have drawn a blank too. I spent some time looking at REOs but nothing there matched up too well.

On the car I came across another picture of it, but still drawing a blank there too.

http://i450.photobucket.com/albums/q...psea7d6fdb.jpg

Great pics and good comments - - - looking at the front of the radiator shell, I'm wondering, could that Touring be a Hupmobile???
https://www.google.com/search?q=the+...h=460&dpr=1.25

Mike, if this is of family back in the Illinois area (I believe your family started out there?), there was any number of car companies in Indiana at the time.....Often wondered how come the center of automobile manufacturing moved to Michigan instead of staying in Indiana? Anyway, you might want to try to Google up some pics from some of the Indiana builders......

Thanks Dave,Yes the picture is from the Illinois area. I've been looking looking thru a lot of the smaller companies especially in the Indiana area. I've been keying mostly on the fenders which are pretty distinctive.

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