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I guess all that we needed to change because we had to crap ain't getting through. Looks like the people know a line of BS when the here it. After GE gets enough company cars the sales are tanking LOL .... government solves another problem. I take that back makes it worse, waste even more money and puts more people on the bread lines. They sure are smart in DC wish they ran my house hold.

What I find interesting is they do not blame the crappy product, the decision to build the things ........ Their target, the media. What a joke their best friend, biggest voice and supreme lemming followers. Got to love liberal logic, never that take ownership or responsibility of dumb decisions. Keeps me LOL, best comedy show going.

GM temporarily halts production of Volt
By Keith Laing - 03/02/12 03:39 PM ET
General Motors has temporarily suspended production of its Volt electric car, the company announced Friday.

GM, which is based in Detroit, announced to employees at one of its facilities that it was halting production of the beleaguered electric car for five weeks and temporarily laying off 1,300 employees.

Wouldn't you love to be the owner of one of those first year wonders??:p Talk about a long term investment opportunity - NOT! I wouldn't be surprised if the off the lot depreciation on a Volt is 90% or more - buy one, drive across town (if it can make it across town) and see what the trade value is for that little puppy:rolleyes::LOL::mad:

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They sure are smart in DC wish they ran my house hold.

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Give it a little more time, it's coming! :eek::mad:

One of the things happening to the electric car is as new tech comes to past the car's resale value tanks like that of a used computer.And over haft of the car's $30,000 is the batteries.Sounds like a smart business man should develop a cottage industry to renew these batteries and make a fortune.The other side of it is the power grid not ready for the demand of a city like NYC all to plug in that the same time.Our power grid is so old a good example of blackouts is when all the power cascaded from Ohio to I think was NYS.That will take billions to upgrade and isn't forthcoming anytime soon.

Here is a link:

Why the Electric Car Is Doomed to Fail | Daily Ticker - Yahoo! Finance

Ok, then it would be good news that 1300 workers, plus however many employees of suppliers, etc. are all laid off from now til April 23???? I'm quite sure that now the burden of paying their unemployment checks will go to the rest of the taxpayers, boy are they lucky!!!!!

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Ok, then it would be good news that 1300 workers, plus however many employees of suppliers, etc. are all laid off from now til April 23???? I'm quite sure that now the burden of paying their unemployment checks will go to the rest of the taxpayers, boy are they lucky!!!!!

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That's the emotional way to look at it. However, the real problem was/is the foolhardy decision to waste their labor, and our tax dollars on this fiasco in the first place. If the free market were allowed to allocate the labor and resources, these folks might have been employed doing something that the consumer wants, rather than something they are clearly demonstrating they don't. A hundred years ago the marketplace, in it's wisdom, chose gasoline powered vehicles over steam or electric powered ones. Not by government choice, not with any bribes ($7500 "tax credit, now proposed to jump to $10k since, obviously, the $7500 wasn't a sufficient bribe), but by the decision of thousands and thousands of self interested consumers. Well, now, millions of self interested consumers are still saying NO to electric vehicles, and for most of the same reasons as their forefathers a hundred years ago.

Our government won't be happy till they tell us when to get up when to take a dump (already get the toilets and seats) when to eat and then if we'er good when to sleep and turn off there fluorescent lights, don't get sick they can tell you where to go to get better (NOT)...WAY TO MUCH GOVERNMENT. I honestly think we could do with half the people in Washington just fine.

Sure does give you poss to think if those same 1300 people's labor was applied to the development of our own oil supply wouldn't we better off.

Who's going to pay the haz mat disposal for the batteries????

Was at home depot yesterday and at the entrance they had a recycle bin for those new bulbs---you have to seal them up in a plastic bag----is that double downning--plastic,mercury,etc??

:eek: Maybe the government will dig up those old "100 MPG" carburetors from the 70's that are buried out at area 52. Or is it 54?

That would be "Area Half a Billion".............................at least I think that's still the payoff for magic pixie dust business started by campaign contributors.......

i would have to buy 2 . one for each foot. i just dont fit in cars. i barely fit in the brides chrysler 300. i'm building a 54 ford truck and hope to get close to 25 mpg with it.

In case you didn't hear--The Volt is waiting for the boat load of Chinese made Gun Racks to arrive at WalMart--It seems there was a shortage of real Winchesters, Remingtons, Rugers for the reverse engineering and they had to wait to get there hands on some from the "turn in your gun for meltdown for a tax credit" program---However, there weren't any Winchesters, Remington or Rugers turned in-----

The first boatload of racks didn't properly fit the guns so the program has fallen way behind---It may be after the election before they arrive---

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Who's going to pay the haz mat disposal for the batteries????

Was at home depot yesterday and at the entrance they had a recycle bin for those new bulbs---you have to seal them up in a plastic bag----is that double downning--plastic,mercury,etc??

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Jerry,I've been asking the same question..whose paying for the disposal of those beautiful,environmentally happy batteries when they go tits up,or for that matter,,where are they going to put them??hmmm,,,no one seems to be able to answer that one,least of all,the sandle wearing tree hugging greenies...And,another thing,,completely OT....If leaded fuel was SOOOOO bad for us,,Why did my late father(retired mechanic)not die a whole lot earlier than his 90 years??:confused::confused:

A while back I started a thread on another forum (shine has 'contributed' too) and currently at 264 responses. It had tapered off but I again wound up the rest of the 'contributors' with the Volt plant shut down - can I say emotional and name calling?? Of course the Left Coasters are beating their breasts pro electric and mightily.

I'm of the opinion that, yes, we, the world, does eventually need an alternative source of transportation energy, but while the Volt might be a stop gap measure, it sure isn't the end or even much more then a beginning. Heck, Consumer's Report said with the heater on, they were able to go 25 miles on a charge. WOWEEEE Economics of this Volt are beyond smelly. I sure don't appreciate that I'm helping to pay for each and every one of them not once (bailout, with 26.5% of GM still gov't owned) but twice ($7500/each tax credit). Then the fact that my exorbitant electric bill is helping to keep the broken down and archaic power generation and transmission systems operating - and in turn are expected to maintain a charger (which needs to have special and unique wiring) in operation - for a car that only gets 25 mp charge. I have seen a total of TWO off of a dealer lot locally and those, they might have been owned by a couple of the local large GE plant's middle managers.

'Nuff from me on this subject.

25 miles on a charge??kidding me...what a waste of time..GM should call them a WOFTAM,,not a volt..Thats ridiculous..

i would have to charge before coming back from town .

I would also like to hear what the environmental costs of battery production, maintenance and disposal for these environmental Gems(GM's). I also want to know where the extra electricity is suppose to come from to power them. It's like solar energy, seems clean and great, then you quietly hear about the toxic waste generated in their production, look at the rediculous expense of instalation(again government subsidized) and the long term payoff, that is offset by their degeneration, and failure around 20-25 years out. Nobody has addressed what is involved in recycling solar cells either. It's sad when great ideas get manipulated by media and politics, ultimately to benefit the Politicians, and scammers who in the name of promoting a clean future take everyone to the cleaners, laughing all the way at how stupid we are not seeing what is right in front of us!. I was excitied about solar for our place, until I realized it would cost alot more than just it's initial purchase, and I may not break even over the life of the cell. Then I was excited by leasing a solar setup, until I realized that was even worse over the long run, only benefiting the lease company! Hopefully the future of electrics will be cleaner and less toxic!