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    Well--I been thru Dsm many times in B737, B727 --even came out to to fix an A/C truck in middle 60s while a UAL ground mech and I remember buying a pair of ray-bans at the little fob there----

    Also I think I was there once when they were loading up an air irseal 747 with munitions for that touchy period of time with eygip???

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    Way back when I worked in the packing houses in Chicago.. I was taught how to gas weld as ALL our amonia lines were gas welded Sure don't want any holes in the weld. Later I was cerified several times for crane repairs and instalation...Every time we started a new job we had to be recertified. There realy wasn't any shortage( of welders or work) back then and most passed right away.
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    Is it safe for you to be making comments like that??? aren't THEY watching what you do???
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    Quote Originally Posted by jerry clayton View Post
    Is it safe for you to be making comments like that??? aren't THEY watching what you do???
    Quietly in whispered tones he said after looking over his shoulder: the Sphincter Police are more concerned about their kids getting involved in nasty western sexually explicit web sites and abhor the thought they could communicate freely among themselves thru twitter or other social networks. But reverse engineering and doing what comes naturally to make a buck at other peoples expense, naw, no matter, bring it on.

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    In my othere hobby (trains) china has taken over. I don't believe you can buy anything related to that hobby that is made in the USA

    made in china assembled in mexico, broken in the US
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    I did a google map search of Zhuhai and found some very elaboate highway/street systems around and about some very upscale elaborate houses---
    and also many,many 10-20 story apartment buildings with absolutely no parking places or street access---

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    Quote Originally Posted by jerry clayton View Post
    I did a google map search of Zhuhai and found some very elaboate highway/street systems around and about some very upscale elaborate houses---
    and also many,many 10-20 story apartment buildings with absolutely no parking places or street access---
    Jerry, Zhuhai is without a doubt one of the best cities in China and is very much like Hawaii and Singapore in climate and infrastructure. Its one of China's best kept secrets and literally billions of equivalent dollars are being spent for technology parks, apartments, shopping centers, bridges and hi-ways plus rapid transit high speed trains that will be linked to Shanghai and Beijing. In addition there is a bridge being built that will link Zhuhai and Macao to Hong Kong and will be one of the longest bridges in the world when completed. This is where a lot of the monies are being invested by the government and thousands if not millions of people are at work building these structures. Arguably, they only get squat for salary, US$100 per month, 640RMB, but they do have a job. IMHO, if the USA government would wake up and start refurbishing all the bridges and roads and start high speed transit systems alongside our freeways the unemployment issue would go away. Of course we are now back to the argument would people want to work at performing such tasks?

    Regarding the parking, its all underground below the apartment buildings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tin-man View Post
    Jerry, Zhuhai is without a doubt one of the best cities in China and is very much like Hawaii and Singapore in climate and infrastructure. Its one of China's best kept secrets and literally billions of equivalent dollars are being spent for technology parks, apartments, shopping centers, bridges and hi-ways plus rapid transit high speed trains that will be linked to Shanghai and Beijing. In addition there is a bridge being built that will link Zhuhai and Macao to Hong Kong and will be one of the longest bridges in the world when completed. This is where a lot of the monies are being invested by the government and thousands if not millions of people are at work building these structures. Arguably, they only get squat for salary, US$100 per month, 640RMB, but they do have a job. IMHO, if the USA government would wake up and start refurbishing all the bridges and roads and start high speed transit systems alongside our freeways the unemployment issue would go away. Of course we are now back to the argument would people want to work at performing such tasks?

    Regarding the parking, its all underground below the apartment buildings.

    Cheers, John, AKA, tin-man
    Jerry, this building fell over, they decided to build an underground garage after the fact, stacked wet earth on the side reducing the benefits of the pilings and it just fell over, essentially intact. Only one poor guy got nailed, he was a worker who went back into the building to retrieve some tools. The owners of this site, the local ChiCom players in the Shanghai government got away with poor construction practices and the poor bugger that was hired to build it, went to jail. Go figure. Decidedly a case of, oops.

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    Don, I can identify with your post from first hand experience. When I entered the university in 1965 every entering ME student took Graphics 1&2, a semester of Casting & Welding, and a semester of Machine Shop. There were two old WWII metal buildings housing working shops, including a lineup of engine lathes that we worked, even learning to cut threads on the lathe. In the second year the Metalurgy class had a three hour lab each week where we took alloy samples, mounted them in resin and then polished them to a high luster before etching them with a mild acid to expose the grain structure - all this to duplicate what we were reading about in the book. After two years I left school, ended up in the Navy for four years and then worked a couple of years before I got brave enough to go back and finish my degree. I had been gone six years, and when I went back the programs had been totally revamped - no more drafting classes (engineers tell the drafters what to draw), no more intro to machine processes shop classes, no more metalurgy lab, and no more Sr Engineering Projects to graduate (I had watched in awe in '66 when a graduating Senior was cutting a ring gear for his differential as his Senior Design Project!!) Everything was in the books now, and the labs were pretty tame, doing canned experiements to demonstrate some theory or another. One bright spot was a thermo professor who had a side-line consulting business, and in lab one day he had us running a complex set of steam table calcs, and once we had about a dozen points he wandered back in, asked us to plot the results and discuss what it might represent. That profile represented the phase change from water to steam with changing pressure - turned out he had a contract to design the ideal spray nozzle for a car wash, and he was looking at varying the storage temp and pump pressure to stay just below the steam point. Never did find out how much he made from our afternoon of lab work, but I never forgot the lesson....
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    Teachers institute day here today and they are at a high school only a couple of miles from here--thinking about going over and canvas the parking lot to see what autos that our finest teachers drive--when we went buy before lunch didn't see a single USA car in the lane near the street!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Jerry, any more what is an American made car? Even Fords, Chevys and Dodges are often made some where else and what we consider foreign cars are made here in the USA by American workers. The line is definitely blurred.

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    Of course, that's just my opinion, I could be wrong!

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    Here's a link to an interesting read on cars assembled in this country.... It points out that buying "American made" isn't near as cut and dried as it used to be!!!!

    Made in America? Hard to tell - The Boston Globe
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Severson View Post
    Here's a link to an interesting read on cars assembled in this country.... It points out that buying "American made" isn't near as cut and dried as it used to be!!!!

    Made in America? Hard to tell - The Boston Globe
    Interesting article Dave, and given the fact that it is 5.5 years old things are even more confusing now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stu Cool View Post
    Interesting article Dave, and given the fact that it is 5.5 years old things are even more confusing now.

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    Indeed!!! I seriously doubt if the percentages of foreign made parts has gone down on any of the brands!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Severson View Post
    Here's a link to an interesting read on cars assembled in this country.... It points out that buying "American made" isn't near as cut and dried as it used to be!!!!

    Made in America? Hard to tell - The Boston Globe
    Hi all!! The big question would be if the company was an american based company(does that help american people more?)does the money stay and help our country?or the foreign based company does the money helps their country?

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