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    Quote Originally Posted by lamin8r View Post
    Hey,no probs..You guys would be more welcome than the plane loads of Asians that are slidin through the doors..
    Robin - just saw on the web today that Asians entering the USA are now outnumbering Mexicans/Hispanics (heck, how else could there be a Chinese restaurant on every other corner as well as in every cross roads town with a population of more then 50 people)
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    Getting married, having a special occasion - nah, don't send a pricy gift, give it to the Obamanation instead:

    The Obama event registry — Blog — Barack Obama

    Found the link here: Weasel Zippers » Blog Archive » Obama Asks People Getting Married To Forgo Gifts, Ask Their Guests To Donate To His Campaign Instead…

    This is almost as sickening as the Gay Pride group doing third finger salutes in the White House in front of Ronald Reagan's portrait: Activists Take Out Frustration on ... Ronald Reagan | The Weekly Standard
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    There's probably some irony waiting there Dave.

    Some percentage of the Obamabots that will participate in that will be heard to acuse Romney of being a cultist for being Mormon.
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    I still don't see much of a future for the country with either one of them.... Ron Paul is still campaigning, maybe it is time to get radical and take care of our country FIRST and let the rest of the world take care of themselves!!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Severson View Post
    I still don't see much of a future for the country with either one of them.... Ron Paul is still campaigning, maybe it is time to get radical and take care of our country FIRST and let the rest of the world take care of themselves!!!!!!
    Dave - There are many points that Ron Paul supports that I DO like, but isolationism is one that would keep me from considering voting for him. Another is abolishing Social Security as well as Medicare.

    Here's Wiki link that spells out even more: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politic...ul#Gun_control
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    Social Security would be there for older workers, but it would allow those under age 25 to select their own retirement plan and opt out of Social Security. It wouldn't be done away with in one stroke of the pen but would, over a period of years, be phased out.... Medicare would be funded through the states by a block grant from the feds (States Rights). The "global economy" thing seems to have done little but take jobs out of the country and put them in other countries.

    The Republicans brought on the recession, the Democrats are trying to kill us with taxes and regulations.... what else do we do but switch the direction the country is going and try something different? The last 3 decades of business as usual based on which party is in power and has the votes seems to me has done nothing but take us from recession to recession.... Isn't it possible that the country should try and entirely different approach rather then just going back to the same old policies that come and go based on the party in charge???

    I'm not saying Ron Paul is the ultimate answer, but maybe he would shake things up enough in the country that people might finally wake up to the fact that this country needs to proceed in a new direction??? Romney keeps hinting that we go back to the "trickle down economics" era, Obama wants the Federal Government to control every aspect of our lives and tax us to death-----Guess I'm just dang tired of having to settle for the lesser of two evils and continually watch our government repeat the same mistakes they've made in the past!!!!! I fail to see where this country has done itself any good by policing the entire world and trying to force our way of life and our system on other countries. Cutting the defense budget by 15% would bring all our troops home, stop all these stupid, baseless wars that accomplish nothing but killing our troops for a cause that the country we're fighting for doesn't even appreciate!!!!! IMO the military's budget could be far better spent with our troops patrolling our borders and throwing the people out who are here illegally!!!!! I'm also tired of seeing this country's efforts and money thrown away supporting outdated alliances like NATO---should we really believe a 3rd world war would be fought with tanks and troops on some European battlefield???? By the mid 50's we had done more then enough in Europe and Japan to get their economies going after the devastation of WW II---we should have brought our troops home way back then. Korea, Vietnam, and now the entire Mid East has shown us that senseless wars on foreign soil with the battle plan controlled by politicians accomplish nothing.....

    Isn't doing the same thing over and over and expecting the results to be different a sign of insanity?????
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    Back in posts #395 through around #405 there are some relevant comments from Shine that I enjoyed. One in particular,
    i live in texas and can tell you ron paul is batshit crazy . 20 years ago before dementia he may have been a good choice but he has been in government 30 years and done nothing. if he had a keeper to tell him to stfu at times he would do better. i like him but he is a nut job .
    I yield to the guy who's seen him in action from his home state on this one.
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    i am constantly amazed that the US has a border so porous that anybody with feet can just waltz in and get paid to live here.
    any other country on the planet would have machine gun emplacements spaced all along that border.
    instead we are footing the bill for the population of mexico.
    WTF?
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    Quote Originally Posted by billy zz View Post
    i am constantly amazed that the US has a border so porous that anybody with feet can just waltz in and get paid to live here.
    any other country on the planet would have machine gun emplacements spaced all along that border.
    instead we are footing the bill for the population of mexico.
    WTF?
    well no one loves us any more .so we pay in many ways. let them stay walk in... the list is very long of the money we pay out for love ???. Why this is a new way of thinking ??? hey it.s Ok it will not be any of my money(idealist liberal) tax more of the rich?? ...dumb ... The rich is anyone that still has a job with any income???? We borrow money from a country that just about has rope around are neck .but it.s ok the TV still works and still can Tex if gas stays lower then 3.50 eveyone is happy ? nice mind game ? Things to think of.. china will drill are oil and take the land to pay off a bad debt? i bet you they find alot of oil here in the US . The ones walking cross the boarder are only taking jobs No one want s there hard cheap workers . boy this sounds like some said when cotton and tobacco was only hand picked.
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    There is a legal immigration system, too, and surprisingly Hispanics are not the largest number!!! Here's and excerpt from an article by Scott Simon of NPR;

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    New Asian Immigrants To US Now Surpass Hispanics
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    WASHINGTON (AP) — For the first time, the influx of Asians moving to the U.S. has surpassed that of Hispanics, reflecting a slowdown in illegal immigration while American employers increase their demand for high-skilled workers.

    An expansive study by the Pew Research Center details what it describes as "the rise of Asian-Americans," a highly diverse and fast-growing group making up roughly 5 percent of the U.S. population. Mostly foreign-born and naturalized citizens, their numbers have been boosted by increases in visas granted to specialized workers and to wealthy investors as the U.S. economy becomes driven less by manufacturing and more by technology.

    "Too often the policy debates on immigration fixate on just one part — illegal immigration," said Karthick Ramakrishnan, a political science professor at the University of California-Riverside and a fellow at the Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars. "U.S. immigration is more diverse and broader than that, with policy that needs to focus also on high-skilled workers."

    "With net migration from Mexico now at zero, the role of Asian-Americans has become more important," he said.

    About 430,000 Asians, or 36 percent of all new immigrants, arrived in the U.S. in 2010, according to the latest census data. That's compared to about 370,000, or 31 percent, who were Hispanic.
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    Would almost appear to me that we are still exporting manufacturing jobs, and importing Asian workers to take technology jobs??? No wonder the unemployment numbers are so bleak!!!! These are LEGAL immigration numbers. Who is hiring all these new immigrants and making the prospect of immigrating to this country so appealing? Is our education system so poor that we don't have qualified people to take these technology jobs and business would rather higher new immigrants???

    So, if I have this right, legal Asian immigrants are taking technology jobs, and illegal Hispanics are taking the manual labor jobs that American workers won't do---do the unemployment numbers actually show any sort of real number or what????
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    well that may be true dave but the chinese are not hauling drugs over the fences .there military is not on US soil getting in to fire fights with boarder patrol. taken over boarder towns . buying guns .cutting heads off . kidnaping .killing famers/ranchers.many other things .its not the small river or walk over for them chinese sure most all of them are hard working people. seams like every time they talk about a lock down of the boarder they talk about how hard of a crossing longer and more dangerous for the good hard workers to come over and die out in no mans land it not fair to them . leave your front door open every thing is coming in your house
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    Quote Originally Posted by pat mccarthy View Post
    well that may be true dave but the chinese are not hauling drugs over the fences .there military is not on US soil getting in to fire fights with boarder patrol. taken over boarder towns . buying guns .cutting heads off . kidnaping .killing famers/ranchers.many other things .its not the small river or walk over for them chinese sure most all of them are hard working people
    At least the Chinese are coming in the front door ...They have worked here for hundreds of years they worked building the railroads and all over California back before the god rush.
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    Hey i have a great ideal... to cover a bad debt with china we could do a trade with them? we could give them Kalifornia .. this deal would be that they must take .nancy pelosi .Holly wood . San franisco ..OH hell that deal would cost us alot .. No one is that dumb still may be worth the cost ????
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    Not for nothing but this guy nails it:
    Retiring Dem: 'The People Have Gotten Dumber' | The Weekly Standard


    Retiring congressman Gary Ackerman, a Democrat from New York, reflects on his time in Congress.


    "Congressman Ackerman, you’ve been here 30 years. Can you define comity as it existed when you arrived versus how it exists now?," Bloomberg Businessweek asks.

    Ackerman responds: " Your premise is that comity exists now. It may not be entirely accurate. It used to be you had real friends on the other side of the aisle. It’s not like that anymore. Society has changed. The public is to blame as well. I think the people have gotten dumber. I don’t know that I would’ve said that out loud pre-my announcement that I was going to be leaving. [Laughter] But I think that’s true. I mean everything has changed. The media has changed. We now give broadcast licenses to philosophies instead of people. People get confused and think there is no difference between news and entertainment. People who project themselves as journalists on television don’t know the first thing about journalism. They are just there stirring up a hockey game."



    add some lazy unreliable workers, plant an American flag in the soil, welcome to the USA..
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    Yesterday being "Independence Day" it seems appropriate, albeit a day late, to glimpse at the Declaration of Independence, the document declaring our break with the overbearing Monarchy of England. Hmmmmmmm.........................revolting against a self imposing monarchy might need a renewal.

    "Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it." --Declaration of Independence (1776)
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