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You mean this guy ? Picture was found in his college year book.
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I certainly wasn't blaming Obama for no rain, just wondering what our totally inept government might do---or not do---about the upcoming corn shortage? Congress is on vacation and won't do much when they get back, better hope they do something about this when they get back or everybody will suffer when food prices go up.
But if that's just one more thing worth joking about, then I guess we are in a world of hurt.......
Congress is on vacation and won't do much when they get back[/QUOTE]
Congress is not in session? Guess I didn't notice that.
Jim
A little note... the corn for fuel is field corn same as cow food....NOT what people eat.. So what did they grow? Field corn is not being produced then fuel won't be available. Sweet corn then we don't have corn on the table... They are not telling the complete story. I'm not say there won't be a shortage but what is the shortage of??????? "The sky is falling , the sky is falling...
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Better believe it
With the elections just months away you'll soon be hearing some Democrats running for political office, warning how the Republicans want to take away the old people's Social Security.
Just in case some of you young whippersnappers (& some older ones) didn't know this it's easy to check out, if you don't believe it. Be sure and show it to your family and friends. They need a little history lesson on what's what and it doesn't matter whether you are Democrat or Republican.
Facts are Facts:
Social Security Cards, issued in 1934, and up until the 1980s expressly stated the number and that card were not to be used for identification purposes. Since nearly everyone in the United States now has a number, it became convenient to use it anyway and the message, NOT FOR IDENTIFICATION, was removed.
When Franklin Roosevelt, a Democrat, introduced the Social Security (FICA) Program. He promised:
1.) That participation in the Program would be completely voluntary,
No longer Voluntary
2.) That the participants would only have to pay 1% of the first $1,400 of their annual Incomes into the Program,
Now 7.65% on the first $90,000
3.) That the money the participants elected to put into the Program would be deductible from their income for tax purposes each year,
No longer tax deductible
4.) That the money the participants put into the independent 'Trust Fund' rather than into the general operating fund, and therefore, would only be used to fund the Social Security Retirement Program, and no other Government program.
Under Johnson, another Democrat, the money was moved to The General Fund and Spent
5.) That the annuity payments to the retirees would never be taxed as income.
Under Clinton & Gore, Democrats, Up to 85% of your Social Security can be Taxed
Since many of us have paid into FICA for years and are now receiving a Social Security check every month -- and then finding that we are getting taxed on 85% of the money we paid to the Federal government to 'put away' for us -- you may be interested in the following:
Q: Which Political Party took Social Security from the independent 'Trust Fund' and put it into the general fund so that Congress could spend it?
A: It was Lyndon Johnson and the Democratically controlled House and Senate.
Q: Which Political Party eliminated the income tax deduction for Social Security (FICA) withholding?
A: The Democratic Party.
Q: Which Political Party started taxing Social Security annuities?
A: The Democratic Party, with Al Gore casting the 'tie-breaking' deciding vote as President of the Senate, while he was Vice President of the US
AND MY FAVORITE:
Q: Which Political Party decided to start giving annuity payments to immigrants?
A: That's right! Jimmy Carter and the Democratic Party.
Immigrants moved into this country, and at age 65, began to receive Social Security payments! The Democratic Party gave these payments to them, even though they never paid a dime into it!
Then, after violating the original contract (FICA), the Democrats turn around and tell you that the Republicans want to take your Social Security away!
And the worst part about it is uninformed citizens believe it!
If enough people receive this, maybe a seed of awareness will be planted and maybe changes will evolve. Maybe not, some Democrats are awfully sure of what isn't so.
What really upsets me is that I've been a active member of the work force with over 35 years of taxation of every paycheck I've ever earned, for Social Security and Medicare. Now as I move into my 50's I'm told, sorry your not going to get what we promised you all those years ago, from all of your withholding we borrowed from your check, because we didn't think you had enough common sense to take care of yourself when you retired, but we made a mistake, we actually won't be providing what we promised, I guess you may need to work until you die to provide for your retirement! BULLCRAP! I say! Either stop taxing me now for what your not going to give me, or cut government spending, cut government corruption, cut government reitrement programs, cut government health care, and give the people what they have paid their entire lives for! Enough is enough with the over spending! I don't think illegals should benefit from Medicare, they don't pay into the system! I don't think foreign nationals deserve social security. I don't think our hospitals and prisons need anymore illegal aliens to support. I'm Tired of the rhetoric from both sides. We are in a mess, and we don't need extra spending on people who don't pay into the system, that was initially created to protect the people who live here legally and paid a lifetime for, only to divert those very same funds to individuals who don't work, don't want to work, have no incentive to work, and or don't reside in this country legally!
all those illegals obama is singing up right now will be voting in November all the
community organizers like a.c.o.r.n. are quietly registering them I have a friend who registered his dog to vote and I didn't believe him until last April and my parrot morris got a sample ballot in the mail and now he got a summons for jury duty now I got a mess I have to straiten out thanks tom.the truth is nobody checks voter registration sense clinton gore made motor voter the law .......ted P.S. welcome to Chicago politics
"cut government programs"
Just not "your" programs, right?
A MAJORITY of Americans are now receiving SOME form of government pay out. THAT means the MAJORITY of America has a vested interest in keeping the pork rolling.
That is exactly how the politicians like it.
How your not calling Social Security "pork" I have been paying into it over 50 years.
Here is a little history regarding these leaches that are receiving our SS bennies. It started in Miami 1970, when the cubans hit the beaches, south Fl made all kind of noise about this problem... Want to take a guess as to who listened ......... try not one state WHY cause it was not in their backyards. Now the tide has flooded the rest of the US and suddenly it has become the problem all are talking about.
I could tell more about similar problems that were highly visible down there. That the US citizenship just ignored cause it was not in their backyards. Another example, English as the primary language. Where do you think that started, real-estate contracts started to be written in Spanish enough said.
When in Roam do as the Romans do. I for the life of me cannot understand why my country just rolls over for all the foreigners. We give up our traditions and get walked over with impunity by these people. As they demand our respect, I ask for what? If their damn country was so wonderful what in the hell are they doing here.
I have been 3/4 around the world and in every country I was in, if I needed something to live I had to learn, live and function as the local folks. I am all for the melting pot ideology with a hefty dose of assimilation. Leave your prayer rugs and foot baths in your homes, I do not need to walk around someone praying to ala in the middle of the office floor
When in America do as the Americans do.
RANT over !!!!
It has been asked more than once (but not necessarily in these words) how just ONE MAN can possibly be held responsible for the big mountain of disastrous messes in which our country finds itself.
(Well, I'll admit that "disastrous messes" isn't the precise term I used when I wrote that last paragraph. My lovely wife edited this and she substituted "disastrous messes" for the word I originally used.)
This is from The Honorable Kay Granger, representing the Tenth Congressional District of Texas. She isn't my congressperson but it wouldn't hurt my feelings if she were.
It covers just a few of the things "just one person" can do.
Weekly Enewsletter: An Executive Order You Should Know About | Congresswoman Kay Granger
Jim
I lied.
Mrs. Granger does not represent the Tenth Congressional District. She represents the Twelfth.
Jim
That is really some scary stuff in her letter, Jim!!!!! Dang media follows all the campaign hype and doesn't even mention this???? The President, either this one or the next one, could take control of virtually everything with this order????? No idea what it takes to rescind an Executive Order, but I sure do hope somebody is working on it!!!!! I wouldn't want to see anyone in the White House have that much authority!!!
Hope you don't mind, Jim, but I thought I'd post here letter for those who don't want to take the time to click a link and read it.
Here's the letter;
Dear Friend,
With all that is going in Washington these days some things don’t make the news the way they should. Fourteen days ago President Obama issued an Executive Order that you should know about. This order gives an unprecedented level of authority to the President and the federal government to take over all the fundamental parts of our economy - in the name of national security - in times of national emergency.
This means all of our water resources, construction services and materials (steel, concrete, etc.), our civil transportation system, food and health resources, our energy supplies including oil and natural gas – even farm equipment – can be taken over by the President and his cabinet secretaries. The Government can also draft U.S. citizens into the military and force U.S. citizens to fulfill "labor requirements" for the purposes of "national defense." There is not even any Congressional oversight, only briefings are required.
By issuing this as an Executive Order the President puts the federal government above the law, which, in a democracy, is never supposed to happen.
As President and Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces, he has the Constitutional authority to issue executive orders. And while similar orders have been made before by presidents from Eisenhower and Reagan to Clinton and George Bush – it has never been done to this extent.
It is still unclear why this order was signed now, and what the consequences are for our nation – especially during times of peace. This type of Martial Law imposes a government takeover on U.S. citizens that is typically reserved for national emergencies, not in a time of relative peace.
I want you to know I am following this very closely. If you would like to read the order for yourself please click here.
Sincerely,
Kay Granger
Member of Congress
Now, if this doesn't get people revved up about the government 'Nationalizing' private and public businesses, nothing will!!!!!
Heck no, Dave, I don't mind at all. It didn't occur to me that people might not bother to open the link. Thanks for posting it.
Was it by "executive order" that the president gave thousands of kids of illegal aliens an open door to citizenship one night recently? No vote? No discussion? No nothing? And just because it's "the right thing to do"?
I'm still mad because of the way "Obamacare" was shoved up our noses by only a simple majority and with not a single member of congress have read the bill.
I'm tempted to go out in the shop and drink beer until I fall out of the chair. I won't do that though because of the wear and tear on my health.
Also, I'd have to find myself a new wife and at my age that could be too tough to contemplate.
Jim
It's my understanding that a new President can rescind Executive Orders of a previous President.
I believe you are correct
only thing i care about is come next year obama is gone.
Snopes is not a reliable source of facts. They are a part of the liberal left, hiding in the wings pretending to be neutral, but financed by George Soros who is a big Obama supporter. Snopes has been caught in several blatant lies, one recently regarding Supreme Court rulings. I'll never trust anything Snopes says again, regardless the subject.
The fact that every president has used the EO process is moot. The question is "What did they use the EO for?" Obama has used EO's to undermine the very foundation of our government, for personal gain.
That's rich! After your comments above about "cuts" for various vote buying programs above in the Ryan crafted budget. A modicum of honest research would inform that it constrains the projected growth rates, yet still increases funding over time. Also that budget must be voted upon by elected representatives of the people after the oportunity for debate and amendment, unlike an EO. But then, since your guys have quashed the budget process for the past 4 years what does the constitutional requirement of submitting an annual budget really mean to the left? Move along.......nothing to see here..........these aren't the hypocracies you're looking for.........;):D
Alan, thanks again.................to which I will reply in kind..................................HEY, look at this shiny thing over here......................:LOL:
Jon Stewart a serious news source ................ OH boy that's rich! Clem Kiddelhopper is a more informed resource.
:LOL::LOL: Jon Stewart:LOL::LOL: Stop your killing me.:LOL::LOL:
obamas objective is to reduce the u.s. standard of living and super power standing and show the anti u.s. countries that he has brought down America so he can end up running the U.N. he thinks he can rule the world he thinks America is a colonial power that must be defeated if you think I am wrong read his book the dreams of my father you will see how he was raised if you want to understand him see the movie 2016 this guy will be vary dangerous if he gets a second term there wont be any thing about America that you will recognize....ted
No, I tend to be skeptical of just about all of the "news" programs, as they all seem to be extremists, one side or the other, as opposed to simply reporting truth. Of course, I tend towards a very logical analysis, where there is truth and then there is everything else. So far I have found FactCheck to be fairly neutral in their analysis and reporting of the trash flying around these days, but I don't trust any one place 100%. From "The Thinker Blog",
Another quote from "The Thinker Blog" that I like,Quote:
The bottom line is that fact-checking sites such as FactCheck.org, for all their attempts to be neutral and unbiased, are staffed by real live human beings who suffer from the same cognitive biases, logical fallacies, and political worldviews as all other humans do. It seems to me they are correct and fair the majority of the time, but occasionally they may stray from neutrality just a bit.
I particularly like their article,Quote:
Without good critical thinking skills, the public’s opinions on important issues are formed for them by others — by the media, by popularity and peer pressure, and by authority figures such as professors, politicians, and “the experts”. Critical thinking can enable everyday people to arm themselves against the persuasive powers of pundits, demagogues, and other propaganda artists.
Who is fact-checking the fact-checkers? | The Thinker
Just changing President's won't change anything!!!!! If Congress can't get anything done we might as well have Barney Rubble in the White House!!! Our government of the people and by the people is a thing of the past, until voters start putting people in Congress who want to do what is best for the country and not just what the party line says is best for their party nothing will change. Congress should not be a power struggle to see which party can control, it should be REPRESENTATIVES of the populace who's only goal is to do what's best for the entire country, not just what's best for their largest campaign contributors......
But Dave,
When you have a President who's mis-using the Executive Order tool to the extent that President Obama has, it is indicative of a bigger problem than Congress not working together. This President is smart enough to have found ways to get his way regardless what the Constitution says, and regardless what the Law says. He has a definite agenda, and he's working toward that agenda. I'm sorry, but in this instance Congress is the sole entity protecting us from an out of control President. God help us if they start working with him.
I believe this is the objective of big money and as a consequence it is the objective of those who dance as puppets of big money, just as Barry dances to the tunes of George Soros.
I'm not eloquent like some writers on this board and I'm probably not nearly as intelligent or educated, but I believe that in order to control the masses, the socio-economics of each country and the people in those countries must be leveled so that all commerce can be handled with the same currency. It has happened in Europe with the Euro and I am of the belief that there are plans to institute the Amero in the Western Hemisphere. Big money sees that there must be a continuation of influx of indigents into the United States in order to "water down" this society and begin the degradation that is necessary to accomplish the melding of countries and individuals from the tip of Argentina to the Yukon of Canada. These indigents will be much easier to control than those who have the advantage of a good education. And by the way, these are not "Mexicans" who are infiltrating this country and Canada, they're Central American and South American Indians. Very low income, uneducated Indians who know nothing about how economies work and care little, as long as they can house and feed their families. Getting food stamps and free housing from the U.S. Government is a heck of a lot better deal than what they were used to in Honduras, so yeah, they're going to vote for the guy who will continue to hand out the freebies. I would too in their shoes. So would you.
So the fact is, our federal government does not want to stop the inflow of people from the South. NTFDAY and I have talked about this. He reckons that a two-man team of Marines with a 50 caliber machine gun, spaced evenly along the border with Mexico would do the deed. I was just doin' some figurin'. If the border is 3169 kilometers and you could place a team every 500 meters, so that they would have a 250 meter fan to the left and a 250 meter fan to the right, you'd need a total of 6,340 nests. Rotating a 2-man team each 8 hours would require 38,000 Marines. It would bring this influx of Indians to a screeching halt and also would bring the influx of drugs to a screeching halt. To pay for this, we could disband the U.S. Border Patrol. They're making little or no progress anyway and the desk jockeys are only wasting taxpayer dollars. These guys make a hell of a lot more loot than the average United States Marine and although that's a shame, it does begin to look good on the bottom line when the majority of persons protecting the border are making less than the current crop of Border Patrol dickwads. All of us know that there is money changing hands at the border control stations. That would come to a screeching stop too. Every driver of every truck coming into this country would be responsible for unloading his truck for inspection or turn it around and go back into Mexico. Enough is too much!!!!
That's how I see it. If you see it differently, then trade your thoughts with me and help me out.
"Rotating a 2-man team each 8 hours would require 38,000 Marines", I'm sure there are that many over seas that would like to come home for a tour of duty
Stop whining Allen, so typical of lefty throwing a fit & calling people names cause folks counter with facts, to the dreams . If the Deomrats ideas were so great we would not be where we are right now. Is it all there fault, let me say no way there are plenty of WEAK Conservatives in the ranks as well helping your causes ...... sad to say but it is reality however.
I get the biggest kick out of lefty, he runs around hair on fire screaming about lies, crooks and racism old lefty if king of all those labels. Lefty is funny but dangerous never forget that.
Alan, you must have missed the meeting where you were assigned to be my whipping boy. :D Ted is someone else's assignment..........but I can't remember who.....
We each have our own perspective on issues as well as what "ideas" should have a priority for rebuttal. Most of the stuff you choose to post is what I consider the typical, mainstream leftist propaganda. You have the advantage of a wide band of what looks like "support" because what you espouse is the meme for most of the print, audio, and video media. Echoed by much of politician purchasing wealthy, academe, and the entertainment industry. You guys have the big megaphone (or echo chamber, you choose) that belies your actual representation as a portion of our society. Your ideas, information, conclusions, whatever you choose to call it, ride the wave of a purported Goebbel's quote, "Tell a lie often enough and it becomes the truth." I know............gee that's harsh! Well let's look at one of my favorites that you pulled out again in the past few days. G.W. Bush destroyed the economy (not an exact quote, but a representation). (just to set a tone of context, this is not intended as a defense of the former Pres. it's to point out the shallowness of that assertion and it's juxtaposition to how Pres. Obama's performance is measured by your side) I have challenged you on this before and you've not replied. No lefty has ever tried to answer the question: If a village idiot (as you guys so often like to portray him.............Is that racist? Hmmmm) from Texas can single handedly exercise the vast powers of the Presidency to destroy our economy, how is it that the worlds most articulate and brilliant Messiah (again, the left's representation) can't wield those same powers and right the economy in just as short order? (I'm sure that's racist!:rolleyes:) Yet that is the meme. Surveys show that a wide band of our population believes that, even after four years of the Obama Presidency. True, the numbers are diminishing, but slowly. Yet I have never heard one of you folks from the left tell us EXACTLY what actions the former Pres. did to destroy the economy all by himself. The tax cuts that were enacted along with a Democrat controlled Congress? No, federal data show that actual revenues increased after the tax cuts that cut across the entire income spectrum (NOT just the rich as is often lied about). Oh, then it's an "unfunded" war...............a war approved by Democrats in Congress as well as Republicans.......and Congress "controls" the check book........not the Pres, And since (often not mentioned because it doesn't fit the propaganda narative), Pres. Bush had to deal with a Dem. controlled congress for about half his term, they could have shut off the funding anytime they wanted to..........but didn't. So, those two excuses don't wash....................so what was it that Bush did exactly to kill the economy? Oh yeah, he eliminated regulations....................Really? Show me where the Federal Register EVER shrunk in size for the elimination of regulation(s). And here we are today with The Most Brilliant President Ever, whining himself, and supported by the deeply entrenched communication network, telling us that his abilities to fix the economy are thwarted by those pesky Republicans. You know, the ones who controll only one house of Congress, and have done so for only 1 1/2 of the 3 1/2 years Obama has been in office. And in those first two years, the voters of this country gave Pres. Obama a very strong majority of his own party members in both houses of congress, a situation that, under the powers vested by our Constitution, gives the President the absolute highest level of authority and potential power allowed. President Bush NEVER had that amount of support from Congress................yet you want us to believe he destroyed the country/economy, yet O is powerless? :rolleyes:
The point is I don't choose to address things that lean toward what I perceive as conspiracy theory (conspiracies do occur, though not as often as either end of the political spectrum likes to think, so they may sometimes be valid). We have enough debunkable tripe spewed by the left to challenge............and are facing an overwhelming propaganda mechanism..............we should do a better job of focusing our efforts for effectiveness sake.
if one simply reads the history of the democratic party it becomes painfully simple. it has become a party of the poor, for the poor , and by the poor . this is exactly how obama got elected . democrats see themselves as the all high savor of the masses . the party has lost it's roots and it's way . much as the republican party has . we simply cannot afford all the entitlement programs . sorry , we dont have the money. and there are not enough rich folks to tax to fix it. although the gimme folks like the sound of it . the answer is in getting people back to work paying taxes and contributing to the economy instead of being a burden on it.
allen why don't you get a copy of your leaders book and read it or better yet get a copy of books on tape he actually reads it himself so you can't say he was misquoted or taken out of context then you can take the blinders off and apologize to me .....ted p.s you talk about insanity you won't like the names I 'I'll start calling you
I remember Governor Stevenson and am old enough to have voted for his opponent in 1956. I'll agree, Allen, that is a clever quotation. I like it.
Another of his quotations, one that gives ME a good chuckle, says: "In America anyone can be President. That's one of the risks you take!"
The present administration shows how great that risk can be.
Jim
Wasn't Stevenson from Illinois?
I guess the closer to election we get, the more mud will be slung from both sides. In the end, everyone needs to vote for who they feel best represents them. For once I feel that Obama isn't my choice. Doesn't mean I love Republican or Democrats, just looking for a change from this last 4 years, just like I was 4 years prior to that! Dave pretty much sums it up clearest, they all are corrupt self serving liers. Politicians aren't people, they are self serving power hungry individuals, who don't care or respect "we the People!"
Ya know what guys? None of this crap really means anything!!!! The people we'd better vote for this year are the one's who are ready to do something about the upcoming food shortage in this country!!!!!! Corn is over $8.00 a bushel already, and the full impact of this falls corn shortages aren't even beginning to be felt yet! Three guys I talked with this week sold their pigs (over 1,000 head feeder pig to slaughter operations) and will not be buying more because the price of corn negates any possibility of a profit!!! Cattle feeder buddy of mine in Nebraska was going to chop all his corn (the little their is) for silage, buy more cattle and feed them.---Wrong, the corn is so high in nitrates and low in nutrition it's not even fit for cattle feed. Then add to this a government that mandates 10% ethanol in gasoline, and is trying to increase this to 15%. This will add even more to the price of corn, some say around $11.00 a bushel by harvest time, and all of a sudden we have placed fuel in front of food!!!!! You think a bit of a dilemma in the agricultural part of the country doesn't involve you??? If you eat, you're involved in agriculture!!!! Some have bemoaned the farm program and farm subsidies--many of which have been ignored by Congress and are now or soon will expire. Don't expect farmers to raise pigs and cattle at a loss!!! Left to simple economics of supply and demand, corn will sell to the highest bidder (ethanol production) and food production will suffer terribly!
That's it in a nutshell. The national debt, world economics, ad nauseum will mean very little this winter when you're trying to figure out how the heck you're going to afford to put food on the table!!! How's $12.00 a pound pork chops, and $15.00 a pound hamburger sound???? If that fits into your budget, then you must be right up there in income with Mitt and the boys!!!!! Is this the price we must be willing to pay to keep government out of big business???? I sure as heck don't have all the answers, I'm not even sure what all the questions will be but what I am sure of is that if the idiots in Washington don't quit arguing about a bunch of stupid, meaningless bs and become a proactive government instead of a reactive government it's going to be a long, hungry winter for a lot of us!!!!!
Can we still afford to keep our troops in countries that don't even want us their (at the cost of how many human lives and how many billion dollars annually? Is there anybody running for any office who actually gives a hoot about the day to day problems the majority of us face now, or the problems coming in the future??? If nothing POSITIVE is done soon in Washington we could conceivably fall into a depression that makes the recessions of 2008 and 2012 seem trivial!!!!! I'm to the stage that I could care less about what anyone wants to do about situations throughout the world, I'm looking for the people who have a plan for feeding the people in this country and some sort of plan for economic survival for Joe Average!!!!!
What do you expect from the people you vote for???