For those of us curious about where the Hot Rod, Restoration, or any other aspect of the special interest car world, THE auction of all auctions begins tonight on SPEED.
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For those of us curious about where the Hot Rod, Restoration, or any other aspect of the special interest car world, THE auction of all auctions begins tonight on SPEED.
http://planetsmilies.net/confused-smiley-17425.gif I can't change channels fast enough. Love the cars, can't stand the phoniness nor the hype. Besides that, and in case you wanted really to see something, Speed will re-air that episode 3287 times over the next 7 years with much of the mundane crap removed for one - two hour segments anyhow.
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it seems to be a spectacle of fluanting wealth but as you say i too love to look at the cars ..even the plain jane cheap stuff is too high ..
If they'd get rid of Steve Magnante and his constant tirades on cars being "overly detailed" I'd like it better.... I mean, come on!!!! How can a car look too nice and be too well detailed, or even too shiny???? I realize the bums at the factory didn't care about the overspray the got on the frame when they painted the car---but all my customer's would scream if I did it to their car!!!!!:LOL::LOL::LOL:
Maybe he just hung out at Pebble Beach doing the Concours de Elegance thing too long???
Anyway, BJ does an absolutely magical job of bringing the best cars and putting them in front of the absolute top dollar buyers!!!! Even the not so fine stuff went for really strong money for the most part on the 1st night. As always, Friday and Saturday night will be crazy!!!!!
i record all of it then watch later. love the ff on my dish .
Dave, a friend (the guy with the Overland) drug me to a meeting of the AACA Sunday, and a guy there was saying that he got dinged on the judging of his '64 Vette because the paint was too good:rolleyes: Said the judge told him that they expected to see the fiberglass along the bottom edge of the body because the car sits so low the factory did not get down low enough to cover the very bottom, and that his did not show any of the "normal" factory orange peel :p As you said, "C'mon!!" I guess there's a place for these trailer queens, but I was ready to leave as soon as the meeting ended.... Sorry for the hijack.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave Severson
I watched the one last night, but like Shine I set the DVR for the rest and will fast forward through them. One that was interesting was a really nice '36 Cord, but they were lamenting that the owner had "ruined it" with the Corvette LT1 and the custom interior that used Recarro seats - brought less than $40k, and would have been in six figures restored.Quote:
Originally Posted by shine
I can't stand to hear Steve Magnante either he thinks his opinion of what should have been done is the only way it should be.
Nothing like a good BJ to make the evening go by, I always say.
Any auction that can sell a "Tetnus shot rod" for 29K has to have something figured out that most of us haven't. good for them.
Russ
prices are up a little this year. looks to be a big year again for corvettes .
Got dinged at ISAC show one time the guy said the grill looked "dinngy" Yep it was ,it was an original 1938 chevy grill that was polished. Got second in show because of it.HAHAHA Some people shouldn't be judges.
I have been custom painting... and therefore involved in shows... for well over 40 years. I can see two distinct styles of judging.
1- "Show judging" This is where some overly critical guys will do their very best to find technical flaws in the car. They spend their days and nights counting rock chips... looking for orange peel... trying to find an obscure place that can't seen seen, that is dirty... and trying to be "an expert" on... the vehicle... or assembly... or era correctness... or repetition of a factory's sloopy finish and assembly work... or just trying to justify their appointment as a judge.
2- "People's choice" It is decided by people who love cars... choose a winner based on the choices the owner/builder made... may like your imaginative touches (AKA "customizing")... and in general, base their decisions on all of the things that we love these cars for!
To sum this up...
#1 only matters to "A-type personalities", who's anal attribute cannot allow them to overlook a nick in the tire side wall, to appriciate and enjoy the visual impact, and outrageous, dreamy, or mean personality of the car.
#2 is the way the rest of us enjoy seeing these great machines! "WE ARE THE 99%!!!" :-)~
BTW... I have done many restorations... primarily on Corvette and muscle cars... and the general public likes them "over-restored" because the car has become an "icon" to them. They want it to look as special as they picture it to be!
(In the end, the guy or girl paying the cost gets to decide.)
i can tell you one thing about corvettes. if it is restored it will not be detailed. things that showed from the factory show in a true restoration right down to the unpainted glass bottom. collector cars and restoration is a complete different world from custom work .
I'm only catching bits and pieces of it, but agree, it appears prices are up a bit, though older body style rods still appear the softest unless they have something special going for them. Trucks look to be strong.
I caught one segment where the talking heads were commenting about the big dollar classics being back. BJ used to be almost entirely those kinds of cars back when. In part the buying market evolved which reduced the number of these marvelous cars offered, and, I suspect, many of them landed in museums where they didn't find their way back out onto the market as often, or when they did, they traded hands directly through networking. But then later, I heard the voices say that the all "No Reserve" restriction had been dropped and that some of the cars later in the week would be crossing the stage with a reserve on. AHA! THAT's what probably brought the high dollar classics back.................the chance to protect from a downside risk.
streetrod prices have been tanked for years. 50 cents on the dollar if your lucky. trucks are still hot but have to be right . sat will be interesting.
Well, you have to remember that Magnante is (or was) a judge and Pebble Beach and a couple of the other Concours type events....He never misses and opportunity to promote the 100% as it was built philosophy.... Suppose it helps getting hired on as a judge for the purist events???? I of course sent my annual email to Speed and Barret-Jackson to let them know what I think.... Won't do any good but, oh well!!!! If wonder boy Steve had his way, it'd be all Duesenbergs, Cords, and Rolls Royce---you know, them "proper" cars... I guess folks with no imagination need there interests, too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob Parmenter
Haven't seen much of the tube coverage but it seems prices so far are all over the place. Guess we'll see for sure the strength of the market when the big boys and pick of the litter cars hit on Friday and Saturday!
Just talked to a guy who is at BJ this week....the guy knows his stuff and he says that the quality of the cars is up this year as compared to the last two years.......I will wait to see. So far, most of the stuff has been pretty lame with mixed themes on the cars, tires outside of the fenders by as much as 1.5 inches, stupid stuffed animals and kids toys, silly signs on trucks, flat chested models, and awful paint choices. It can only get better.
Just more reason these cars were on Tuesday and Wednesday???? Anxious to see what the good stuff brings though!Quote:
Originally Posted by robot
there will be double coma's this year . there is some pretty rare stuff coming up. i watch the corvettes which is where i make my living mostly . especially the restomods . but it's always fun to watch .
Well, it must be Friday!!! The Hubbard Vette with the LS-9 just went for $185,000.00!!!!!
190 grand for a 70 BOSS302 .... crazy ....
62 vette just went for 325 thousand dollars
Here's something that sold for what It's worth $148.500
1957 STUDEBAKER GOLDEN HAWK Lot 1240.2 | Barrett-Jackson Auction Company
But then I'm partial to Golden Hawks . LOL Now the price of parts for Hawks will skyrocket !!
BJ = A bunch of Millionaires playing their game !!
They've got the Charity car on now, wild looking Fairlane that was built specifically for this auction, proceeds to disabled Vets....$1 mil....
Ron Pratt paid $700K for the car when it was built!!!!
Maybe a lot of these cars are out of our price range, but so is the amount of $$$$$$$ they give to worthwhile causes!!!!
Thanks Ron Pratt, and thanks Barrett-Jackson, lots of us Vets appreciate this
PS---Ron Pratt is a Vietnam Vet.....
Your right Dave . I guess I forgot about the Charity Auctions bringing in money for good causes ..
Since almost everything is outside my price range , I will sit back and enjoy the show ..
My Fantasy Bidding .. not even close
ron pratt is an amazing fellow as you say .. he will buy a car then give it back so it can be sold to charity .. i have`nt seen the guy who always wears the red ferarri jacket .. .. stuff may be too cheap for him yet ..
what kind of moron slams the door on a 100k+ car ????? that old fool putting the sold stickers would still be trying to get my boot out of his ass.
I saw that too, really surprised the guy lived all the way through Saturday, figured one of them proud new owners would just hurt him really bad!!!!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by shine
they left the trunk unlocked on the gt convert and it sprung open. bounced about 4 times. then the old fool with the sold stickers slammed every door he touched. the black 34 on sat was almost pushed over the guy trying to close the hood.
geeze where did they come up with this crew.
My personal opinion is the money is STUPID! I can't believe what these people are willing to pay for some of these cars...
Keith
they SET the price of collector cars. that is what auctions are for. besides it's business , most are museums or serious collections .
BJ needs to be watched from the perspective that each of the cars sold are over-the-top restorations or resto-mods and are WAY beyond original showroom condition.
The price paid for ANY of these cars reflects the value of THAT CAR ONLY and does NOT represent what another car of the same exact model might be worth on the open market.....
Someone thinking that BJ instantly made that old heap behind the barn worth $150k is gonna wait a long time for someone to buy it at that price! Unrestored or basketcase cars are still only worth negotiated market value!