Thread: The Reno Plane crash-Wow

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Racing organizations and sanctioning bodies should be allowed to regulate themselves without interference from outside sources.... Racing is inherently dangerous and I'm also quite sure that the spectators are aware of the inherent dangers of being a spectator. If it scares you, don't go. I would bet that statistically cell phone usage while driving kills more people then all of racing combined in a years time!!!!

Lets not let big brother and/or other outside interests take control over more things then they already control!!!!! To heck with the media hype!!! Death and accidents from any source make good news copy! I would also bet that most who bitch about safety in racing have absolutely nothing to do with the sport! Some people like to go fast and when two of them get together there's going to be a race.....if those watching aren't intelligent enough to realize the risk then they should have adequate supervision in their lives to make sure they don't unwittingly attend such events!!!!

It was a racing ACCIDENT, and accidents will continue to happen---that's why they are called accidents!!!! If some of these do gooders had their way, everything with any danger or risk involved would be discontinued. Racers in all types of racing realize the risk involved, that's why lots of them race to just keep one foot over the edge and take the risks!! Don't let a bunch of uninformed do-gooders take away any more of our pastimes and passions!!!! Let racers be racers---if it scares you, don't go to the event!!!!!

Originally Posted by Dave Severson

Racing organizations and sanctioning bodies should be allowed to regulate themselves without interference from outside sources.... Racing is inherently dangerous and I'm also quite sure that the spectators are aware of the inherent dangers of being a spectator. If it scares you, don't go. I would bet that statistically cell phone usage while driving kills more people then all of racing combined in a years time!!!!

Lets not let big brother and/or other outside interests take control over more things then they already control!!!!! To heck with the media hype!!! Death and accidents from any source make good news copy! I would also bet that most who bitch about safety in racing have absolutely nothing to do with the sport! Some people like to go fast and when two of them get together there's going to be a race.....if those watching aren't intelligent enough to realize the risk then they should have adequate supervision in their lives to make sure they don't unwittingly attend such events!!!!

It was a racing ACCIDENT, and accidents will continue to happen---that's why they are called accidents!!!! If some of these do gooders had their way, everything with any danger or risk involved would be discontinued. Racers in all types of racing realize the risk involved, that's why lots of them race to just keep one foot over the edge and take the risks!! Don't let a bunch of uninformed do-gooders take away any more of our pastimes and passions!!!! Let racers be racers---if it scares you, don't go to the event!!!!!

Amen, Brother, Amen, Amen! Well said, Dave! We don't need more regulation in our events, regardless the risks that are inherent. Let's put the responsibility back with the individual, and get away from the litigation element when ACCIDENTS HAPPEN!!

When I think of race events I parallel that to two cases in my life' experiences in insurance's limitations.I do not advocate that insurances get involved.But I am reporting what I have found.Frankly NHRA is a sectioning body that has insurance implications.Anyways-back when I toured mixing sound for live concerts say "X" band would record and then go on tour to promote record sales.Went I first started that the "X" band's tour because of the numerous concert dates would be about 6 months.Good gig for me for sure.A couple of issues happened and the media put up a big stink and yepper the number of shows because of the outlandish insurance riders that where required of promoters cut the concerts in haft.

The other case where insurance has over run a industry is in trucking.No doubt about it.

So if the air shows want to continue to self regulate,I think they have to show they can.Make some rule changes.Maybe slow down the planes abit.

Originally Posted by 1gary

So if the air shows want to continue to self regulate,I think they have to show they can.Make some rule changes.Maybe slow down the planes abit.

Gary, we'll simply agree to disagree on this point. Limiting the speed of the aircraft is meaningless, IMO. The issue here is spectators, not the racing. If people choose to attend and buy box seats for the races they accept the risk, and there's nothing else to say about it, again IMO.

Originally Posted by 1gary

So if the air shows want to continue to self regulate,I think they have to show they can.Make some rule changes.Maybe slow down the planes abit.

If folks don't like the way the Air Show people regulate races, then there is two things they should do:
1. Don't participate
2. Don't spectate

The last thing we need right now is to have the uninformed take charge of more things so they can protect us from ourselves!!!!!!

The way 'Big Brother' is slinging regulations and laws at us, we sure as heck don't need spectator sports to have their heavy hand there too. Look at baseball - and Senate hearings with the use of steroids - it's none of their damn business if Roger Clements or others used them. Go to a doctor's office and read that Hipaa form. Even your wife/partner can't get any information. Then Obamacare - and the regulations go on and on and on.

Dam' ya got me started.

If you don't want to spectate, as Dave S said, don't. It's a heluva lot more dangerous statistically wise driving to an event to be a spectator then being there. As a participant, your odds do go up. Heck, stay home, maybe even stay in bed with a pillow over your head. Oh and the odds of being hit by a piece of space junk now about to come down, 1 in 3200 (Defunct NASA satellite to crash to Earth this week | Reuters) so that pillow - wont help.