I hate new cars because...

Today i put a new radiator in my falcon ute ('96) and i thought to myself "i f#&%$n hate new cars!"

First the engine bay is chockers! if you drop anything-which i did plenty of times- you need little girl arms to get them out again!:mad:
also the reason i had to replace the radiator is because of its PLASTIC end tanks and the inlet snout had broken into peices!

Dont get me wrong i like new tech stuff in cars and all the electronic gadgets available but why do they take up so much bloody room!

Feel free to share your experiences on "new" cars.

spike i agree 100%. not only is everything jammed together but you have to take the top apart to get to the engine. and god help you if you crack some of the plastic pieces.

i like new cars and old ones. the thing i dont like about the new stuff is, its dang hard to fix somethin if you cant find it. hahaha.ive had to keep our old wore out 97 mazda runnin cause i cant afford another car. what a pita!!!my 63 nova 1-6 i could lean over the dang fender and do any dang thing i want to and i can see everything.had to change the water pump on the mazda, it took a long time just to find it.heater hose broke. i had a pile of parts on the ground before i could even see that hose.give me 60's and older any time.

I'm still wearing scars on my forearms from changing the fuel filter on the Honda I used to own. 4 hour job.......whoever decided to put that thing hidden right under the master cylinder where they did should be drawn and quartered. :mad: I remember cars from the 50's and 60's where you could sit inside the engine room and work comfortably on the engine.

Don

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Originally Posted by geezer69

i like new cars and old ones. the thing i dont like about the new stuff is, its dang hard to fix somethin if you cant find it. hahaha.ive had to keep our old wore out 97 mazda runnin cause i cant afford another car. what a pita!!!my 63 nova 1-6 i could lean over the dang fender and do any dang thing i want to and i can see everything.had to change the water pump on the mazda, it took a long time just to find it.heater hose broke. i had a pile of parts on the ground before i could even see that hose.give me 60's and older any time.

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I couldn't have said it any better myself.
Other then changing brakes, air filter & the oil which is still a PITA I won't work on them. Someone asked me once why I buy & drive old stuff, my reply was "Because I can still work on them". Hell w/the new stuff you need 1000's of dollars worth of special tools to do most of the stuff.
I have said for a long time we have CRACK HEADS designing these new cars. Who else would build a car/truck that it takes 4-8hrs to change just the plugs???....joe

They put so much crap in the engine bays now it's almost impossible to work on them. Give me the 50 and 60's car anytime where you could have two guys working on the same engine with room to spare.

I have to change spark plugs on the DW's V6 Ford Escape. After you pull the plastic engine cover, the upper half of the intake manifold and a bunch of claptrap, there they are - and that's a $40 DIY job . To do something as simple as replace the PCV - you also have to pull the same parts as the plugs. Then there's my V10 DD pick up - three plugs on each side are under the cowl and they of course are COP which means new boots, an approximate $150 DIY job and several hundred more for a dealer to do the job. Then there are brakes - and I don't care what brand car, you should probably change rotors especially if they are the OEM as there is probably a better then great chance they are worn too far.

I really miss cars like my '68 390 Torino - and I used to b!@#h about the 2 LR plugs where I had to snake a long extension with a flex through the two hood hinge straps to get #7 and 8.

The room and accessibility in my '55's engine bay is a do-it-yourself wrench spinner's dream - - - - ahhhh, but unfortunately, it ain't my DD :CRY:

Hate all the computer panels that cost 1000 dollars each to replace. The highlander has 5!:eek::eek::eek::eek:
Also hate the electronics for the heater control. As it gets older it's about 800.00 to replace. Never had a heater control go out on an old car. When the electric one starts to fail, the car gets full heat on all the time!:CRY::CRY:
Makes for real uncomfortable driving!

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Originally Posted by geezer69

, its dang hard to fix somethin if you cant find it. .on my 63 nova i can lean over the dang fender and do any dang thing i want to and i can see everything.. ..

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dang it geezer :rolleyes:that`s a lot of dang danging :LOL:.. i hate new stuff as well .. although it shouldn`t need anything for 200 thousand miles if it did you`re dang S.O.L.:(

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Originally Posted by IC2

I have to change spark plugs on the DW's V6 Ford Escape. After you pull the plastic engine cover, the upper half of the intake manifold and a bunch of claptrap, there they are - and that's a $40 DIY job . To do something as simple as replace the PCV - you also have to pull the same parts as the plugs. Then there's my V10 DD pick up - three plugs on each side are under the cowl and they of course are COP which means new boots, an approximate $150 DIY job and several hundred more for a dealer to do the job. Then there are brakes - and I don't care what brand car, you should probably change rotors especially if they are the OEM as there is probably a better then great chance they are worn too far.

I really miss cars like my '68 390 Torino - and I used to b!@#h about the 2 LR plugs where I had to snake a long extension with a flex through the two hood hinge straps to get #7 and 8.

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Cost me $190 to have plugs put in my Trailblazer & I would hate to see what it would have cost the son to have plugs put in his 04 Dodge Ram truck, took him about 5hrs to do :eek: .....joe

I hate 'em because they all look like a pistachio nut painted to look like a car!

What ever happened to cars with personality and style? {:-(

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Originally Posted by HOTRODPAINT

I hate 'em because they all look like a pistachio nut painted to look like a car!

What ever happened to cars with personality and style? {:-(

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Long gone,brother...Havent done the plugs in the F100 for a while,,Costs about $50 for a filter and oil pack...DIY..Think Ill just drive the ol truck for a few more years...you guys have helped me realise I dont need the grief of a late model vehicle...just keep regular maintenance on the old one,and watch its value increase slowly..:LOL:

ÿeah i did the water pump on the same ute not long ago- to get to the pump which only just sqeezes in behind the thermo's i had to take off the power steering pump, hte fan belt guard(plastic) as well as the alternator bracket that would survive a nuclear holocaust! and then the belt tensioner was to damn tight!!!!

there was lots of choice words going around!

I hate new cars because.... when did it become "In Fashion" to have THAT MUCH orange Peal in the paint? Matching a panel these days has a whole new meaning.

I hate new cars because...... I can't afford 'em.....

Lets see my 2003 GMC pickup I bought with 40000 on the clock.I've replaced 3 O2 sensors($75.00 ea)Exhaust crossover pipe($450.00)Intake manifold gaskets ($650.00)Shocks ($150.00) Brakes and rear calipers ($375.00)Steering shaft $180.00)Water pump ($125.00) I use to buy $3000.00 cars and drive them for 4 to 5 years without putting much into them.Should of kept on doing that.

i just replaced the radiator in my 76... I think it took me about 45 minutes. of course I was bs'in with my dad and son during the operation.

I don't really hate new cars, I just hate to have to work on the dang things. My Tundra DD has the starter on top of the engine under the intake - gotta take the whole top of the engine off to get to it. The alternator is reached from underneath, after taking off the skid plate, and if you have to remove/replace the thing, you need to take a bunch more stuff off. And then, there are those danged computers; :whacked:**):rolleyes: O'course it's gettin' tough to work on the '59, too; that is such a big hole, and that little engine sits way down in there. Hanging over the fender or radiator has gotten to be rather painful, my arms seem to have gotten shorter, and I'm too stove up to crawl in there with it anymore. Guess it's time for a tilt front end. :D:toocool:

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Originally Posted by MRJB1929

I hate new cars because.... when did it become "In Fashion" to have THAT MUCH orange Peal in the paint? Matching a panel these days has a whole new meaning.

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yeah i couldnt beleive the orange peel in our new xr6 (falcon)

i F%&$*n really hate new cars now! our new falcon has a stuffed radiator(im having a really educated guess at this) and has auto fluid in the coolant! i found this after the auto started playing up. The trans cooler is inside the radiator - really F%$#^N intelligent! it is fairly common for this to happen in thye last model before ours after a few years i have just found out. our has only donje 30,00 Km's!!!!

In case you cant tell by now im really pissed off!

Hate to tell you, but if you have transmission fluid in the radiator you also have antifreeze in the transmission. :eek: I had that happen on a Pontiac I owned years ago, that cooler fell off and the radiator and transmission exchanged fluids. I flushed and flushed after putting in a new radiator but the antifreeze ate up the clutches in the transmission and it finally stopped working after a week or so.

You may be facing the same fate..........but I hope not.

Don

I hate new cars because they look like hell, must read the badges to figure out the manufacture ...... they look like beans who drive beans?

I remember being able to tell the brand of a car by tail lights or grills, this stuff is just boring. New cars come out and makes ya just yawn, I think that kea thing is the new K car.

Heard the mini advertised as driving like a go kart .......... well at least they told the truth ..... who wants to drive a go kart.