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    Any gun owners?

     



    I got this posted on another forum, gun related, so thought I would pass it along.


    Gun Owners Beware-not a joke!
    *Subject:* Gun owners ... look what's on the 2010 tax return

    Okay, this is getting pretty bad!! Guess a lot of us will wind up in
    jail. It's okay for the illegals to bring guns in, but we can't have them
    to hunt or protect ourselves.

    Read the following:
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    *Verified true on Snopes *
    http://www.snopes.com/politics/guns/blairholt.asp> *

    **Gun owners.... Look what's on the 2010 tax return....
    **
    **If you have a gun, I hope it isn't registered!
    **It begins... More Freedom gone.... The right to protect yourself and your
    family gone! Now ALL GUNS must be listed** **on your next (2010) tax
    return!
    **


    **Senate Bill SB-2099 will require us to put on our 2009 1040 federal tax
    form all guns that you have or own. It will require fingerprints and a tax
    of $50 per gun. This bill was introduced on February 24, 2009, by the Obama
    staff. BUT, this bill will only become public knowledge 30 days after the
    new law becomes effective! This is an amendment to the Internal Revenue Act
    of 1986. This means that the Finance Committee has passed this without the
    Senate voting on it at all. Trust Obama? You must be kidding!
    The full text of the IRS amendment is on the U.S. Senate homepage: **
    www.senate.gov** <http://www.senate.gov/> **. You can find the bill by
    doing a search by the bill number, SB-2099. You know who to call; I
    strongly suggest you do.
    Please send a copy of this e-mail to every gun owner you know.
    **Text of H.R.45 as Introduced in House: Blair Holt's Firearm Licensing and
    Record of Sale Act of 2009:** **www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h45/text** <
    http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h45/text>
    **Obama's Congress is now starting on the firearms confiscation bill. If it
    passes, gun owners will become criminals if you don't fully comply.
    **
    It has begun... Whatever Obama's "Secret Master Plan" is... This is just the
    'tip of the iceberg!'

    Very Important for you to be aware of a new bill HR 45 introduced into the
    House. This is the Blair Holt Firearm Licensing & Record of Sale Act of
    2009.
    Even gun shop owners didn't know about this because the government is trying
    to fly it under the radar as a 'minor' IRS revision, and, as usual, the
    'political' lawmakers did not read this bill before signing and approving
    it!

    To find out about this - go to any government website and type in HR 45 or
    Goggle HR 45 Blair Holt Firearm Licensing & Record of Sales Act of 2009.
    You will get all the information.

    Basically this would make it illegal to own a firearm - any rifle with a
    clip or ANY pistol unless: 1) It is registered 2) You are fingerprinted
    3) You supply a current Driver's License 4) You supply your Social
    Security number 5). Each update change or ownership through private or
    public sale must be reported and costs $25. Failure to do so you
    automatically lose the right to own a firearm and are subject up to a year
    in jail.
    There is a child provision clause on page 16 section 305 stating a
    child-access provision. Gun must be locked and inaccessible to any child
    under 18. They would have the right to come and inspect that you are
    storing your gun safely away from accessibility to children and fine is
    punishable for up to 5 years in prison.

    If you think this is a joke - go to the website and take your pick of many
    options to read this.. It is long and lengthy. But, more and more people
    are becoming aware of this. Pass the word along. Any hunters in your
    family pass this along. This is just a "termite" approach to complete
    confiscation of guns and disarming of our society to the point we have no
    defense - chip away a little here and there until the goal is accomplished
    before anyone realizes it.

    This is one to act on whether you own a gun or not..

    <**Search Results - THOMAS (Library of Congress)** <
    http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:H.R.45> " rel=nofollow>**<
    http://Thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:H.R.45<http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:H.R.45>
    > ** <http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:H.R.45> **:

    <**H.R.45: Blair Holt's Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale Act of 2009 -
    U.S. Congress - OpenCongress* <http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h45/show>
    *<http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h45/show>* <
    http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h45/show> *
    **
    <**H.R. 45: Blair Holt's Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale Act of 2009 (
    GovTrack.us <http://govtrack.us/>)* <
    http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h111-45> *<
    http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h111-45>* <
    http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h111-45> *
    **
    Please..... Copy and send this out to EVERYONE in the USA , whether you
    support the Right to Bear Arms or are for gun control.. We all should have
    the RIGHT TO CHOOSE! Reply Reply With Quote Thanks
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    HUMMMM!!! No coment!!!! Well No!!! I ain't gonna start something.
    I don't want to be the one to say I told you SOOOOO!!!!!

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    I'm willing to bet that I won't be the only one occupying a cell due to refusal to comply. Just say NO.

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    This is an old story that pops up from time to time...
    http://www.nraila.org/legislation/fe...d.aspx?id=4925
    Last edited by rspears; 09-22-2010 at 05:12 AM.
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    They are always trying to slid stuff in under the radar.
    Back in the day the did the same thing with taking the radar detechtors
    out of commercial vehicals. No vote on it they just slid it in on the tail
    of a bill that had nothing to do with highway safety or big trucks.
    Now the insurance companies dictate what speed your truck in allowed to do.
    Give them time and they will try to take the CB's out of the big trucks next.

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    Home > Reference Home > Is it true that . . . >

    Is it true that . . . Senate Bill SB-2099 will require owners of firearms to pay a $50 charge per gun and list each gun on their federal tax form?



    The answer is no. This Internet rumor states that SB-2099 is legislation currently being considered by the Senate. The bill supposedly requires owners of firearms to list on their 1040 tax return all guns they own and then pay a $50 charge per firearm. There is no such legislation by this name in the 111th Congress.


    This is from the link on the OP---

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    I could be wrong, but from what I can tell, this bill was referred to a sub-committee in February 2009 and I don't see that any further action has been taken.

    Hopefully, it will die a quiet death. But I would imagine, that if Republicans do not take back the House in November, it could be resurrected.

    I doubt they will do anything about it before the election. It would be political suicide considering the current mood of the country.

    And if they try to force it after the election, they may well have folks with torches and pitchforks on the steps of the capital.

    I think most Americans are pretty much tired of this kind of crappola.
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    I'll wait for the NRA to send me the notification. Sounds like the CHR members are going to be occupying a separate ward if this goes through. Dibs on a lower bunk (age, infirmities, general attitude are my creds)
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    Come on guys, go to the Senate site mentioned by the OP, enter the bill number in search, and read the results!!!! Call your congressman, do something, just don't buy in to the bs and spread what is nothing more then an attempt to make everyone hate everyone who isn't on their side!!!!

    It's BS, pure and simple.. There is no such bill.
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    That's all Capital Hill needs to do right now...to attack gun owners. That would pretty much do it. I'm guessing there would be nobody left to tick off.

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    Even Glen Beck????
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evolvo View Post

    Don't believe anything you here on conservative talk shows! They're paid very well to keep you scared and gullible.
    Now if Bill Maher said it you'd probably fall in lock step.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NTFDAY View Post
    Now if Bill Maher said it you'd probably fall in lock step.
    Yeah, or Keith Olbermann.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evolvo View Post
    This reminds me of the Shirley Sherrod incident of a few months ago. She's the woman from the Dept of Agriculture who lost her job after being accused of racism. Turns out the video was selectively edited by Breitbart, a conservative fear monger in a successful ploy to get the teabaggers and their kind in a full tilt uproar. The administration reacted in a shameful way, unfortunately and fell into the trap. Which just proves to me how effective this kind of BS is.
    Sherrod is now suing Breitbart for slander, I hope she wins.

    Don't believe anything you here on conservative talk shows! They're paid very well to keep you scared and gullible.
    Don't know who started this "Gun Control" rumor, but as Dave suggested I did look in to it. Seems that it turns out to be Ancient History and is long gone.

    But I must comment on the comments by Evolvo above. Did Ms. Sherrod make a racist remark at a speech she gave at one time? Well maybe and maybe not depends intirely on the context of those remarks. They sound racist until you hear the intire speech, and then they seem to take on a whole nuther meaning. That then brings forth the question: Did some over react to those comments? They resulted in her being forced to resign but the over-reaction was complettly on the part of the White House and no one else.

    Bret Baier, I believe that is his correct name and not "Breitbart". Well the truth is the tape was not only not edited by Mr. Baier but also wasn't even shown by anyone on the Fox Network until "AFTER" Ms. Sherrod was forced to resign by her boss at the dept of Agriculture. Fox did not air any of those tape clips until after the event of her resignation were long over by two or three hours. Fox even the next day aired a complete summary of the 24 hour period encompassing 10 Hours before her resignation was requested and there was no aired segments that showed any of Ms. Sherrod's aledged racist remarks at all until after she had left her position.

    The only reason I even bring this up is the last sentence of Evolvo's comments above.

    "Don't believe anything you here on conservative talk shows! They're paid very well to keep you scared and gullible"

    I believe that those very comments would also apply to the Liberal Media. as well. Anyone who believes they can believe one word coming from any reporter on MSNBC or CNN or any of the Main Stream Media is absolutly fooling thereself. By and large all of these folks are out to further some cause of there own. We all would be best served in believing and trusting in the people than any of those dump a*& talking heads.

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