Quote Originally Posted by Bob Parmenter View Post
Sadly the "global warming" crowd has the bigger megaphone, and the more active propaganda machine. ......... It's all about controlling the populace. Let's just say there were some validity to the "excess" CO2 story. It's a well know fact that CO2 is plant food, essential for the production of oxygen for our environment. If there were a real problem to solve, and individual freedom and respect of personal property rights were important, should there be a "remediation" plan that included a significant planting of trees to offset the so called "carbon footprint" of each individual? Why are the only solutions offered are to limit personal freedoms, and confiscation of personal property, primarily money, under a convoluted scheme of "cap and trade". Probably the most important shorthand measure of the validity of this cap and trade scheme is that it was originally proposed by those wonderful folks at ENRON. But again, the sheeple just won't get it!
If global warming is a joke than the majority of the entire scientific community, world wide, who have gone to school to study science are all wrong!
I'm tired of the reteric about democrats and republicans. People we are screwing up our planet. If you can't accept this than don't. Don't try to convince me global warming doesn't exist or that we aren't creating real problems with our use of this planet. I've got two science degrees, CO2 build up from industrialization is a problem. I'm sure most of you think Al Gore invented global warming as a political platform to run on. Wrong again! These ideas and theories have been out there for a much longer time period than he has ever even been concieved. We will continue to have extreme weather fluxes both cold and hot. And yes there have been historical patterns of ice ages prior to our own existance as a natural pattern on this planet. Global warming works much the same way.
What really bothers me with all of these discussions is that everyone blames someone else. Nobody wants to look at their own lifestyle and accept some blame for negative climatic changes on a global level for the way we choose to utilize this planets resources.
We could argue science. We could argue religion. In the end, stall tactics and bitching won't change the effects of extreme industrialization to future generations to come! Every habitat has a carrying capacity. The planet is no different. We have created so many extreme practices in developing the world that the world is fighting back. Think not? Live on the west coast? Gone salmon fishing lately? Live in a big city? Have trouble breathing on hot days? Arguments about this, are like quoting statistics, depending on who you want to sway, you just slant your survey. No single person on this forum has the knowledge base to prove to me that if we don't change our lifestyle practices that our future generations are going to suffer for our aragance.