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02-15-2009 04:43 PM #1
It's official....................we all fell down on this one!!!
I wonder if Vickers thinks he should have to take a 5 lap penalty and give up that Talledega victory he got a couple years ago when he wrecked Johnson and Jr to take the lead? Yeah, right!!
Your Uncle Bob, Senior Geezer Curmudgeon
It's much easier to promise someone a "free" ride on the wagon than to urge them to pull it.
Luck occurs when preparation and opportunity converge.
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02-15-2009 05:47 PM #2
Mirror drivers
If Jr made the hit on purpose, shame on him...But blocking should not be tolerated before the last lap...Vickers was guilty of the first foul in my opinion. I used to hate mirror drivers when I raced stock cars..I remember when hot rods were all home made.
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02-15-2009 06:33 PM #3
I think with Jr's run going that when Vickers cut down on him, Vickers lost some momentum and contact was then made---if Jr had checked up it would have been more disastous, just different people would of been involved
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02-15-2009 06:35 PM #4
It was Kyles race till the wreck took him out... Why was Vickers blocking Jr anyway??? He was a full lap behind!Life is not a dress rehearsal… Live each day to it’s fullest!
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02-16-2009 02:56 PM #5
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02-16-2009 04:28 PM #6
Jr. lost his cool and the race when he couldn't find his pit stall! It might be a case of lack of color vision which is more common in males than many want to admit. He had a good car but pit problems TWICE caused him to really push and he was trying to get the free pass from Vickers a lap down when he could have/should have been running in the top five. Even so, once the leaders wrap around and the whole field is running two wide the race is more like billiards/pool than racing! Some people like the wrecks but I hate to see those high buck machines turn into scrap!
Don Shillady
Retired Scientist/teen rodder
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02-16-2009 04:51 PM #7
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02-16-2009 12:46 PM #8
I thought the radio said that Vickers and Jr were both a lap down and racing to be the first one a lap down. I'm happy a Ford won, but would have liked to see what the results would have been if Kyle was still running.
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02-16-2009 05:35 PM #9
It would of been worse if Jr had checked up so as not to touch Vickers
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02-16-2009 06:29 PM #10
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02-16-2009 06:54 PM #11
Am I the only one that thinks a 4 hour pre race show is a bit much? They new the rain was coming .I guess its all about the commercial money. Jr is my guy but Jack Roush has paid his dues and Im glad for him and Ford
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02-16-2009 08:52 PM #12
I think when Vickers cut down so abruply that he got loose and as Jr was coming on there was no way not to touch him----remember that there going 2 1/2 mile lap in 40something secs, it takes a micro sec or so ( average 1/2 sec) to react to something so how far did they go???
I think this accident started when Vickers looked in his mirror
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02-16-2009 09:19 PM #13
I would of liked it better if Jr would of drilled Bush right in his door
I know, I know, I'll ask for forgiveness Sunday
Ken
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02-17-2009 06:04 AM #14
I'm a Kenseth fan so was glad to see him get the win. Even through the back door! Actually, I really like to see the under dogs have a chance and I like Tony a lot. When you really get down to it anyone but the Bush brothers. Even Derrick Cope!
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02-17-2009 06:21 AM #15
What i would like to know is why should blocking be allowed on the last lap, that was the lap that Dale Sr was killed on , If blocking is not safe on the other laps what makes it ok on the last lap . if vickers wouldn't have cut Junior off there wouldn't have been a crach .
I used to think vickers was an OK guy Now I think he is a cry baby just like Harvick and Jeff GordonLast edited by 417strokers; 02-17-2009 at 06:24 AM.






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