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Originally Posted by TOW'D
That already went to Mexico.
Youther, Just what came in that box?
Great picture I saved that for future use with your permission. Who ever said " A picture is worth a thousand words" had that very picture in mind!!
Roland
My guess is fireworks.
EXCEPT for mexicans... they are now making those in USA.
Wow I hate to think that maybe American Flags Could have been in that Box ? :(
Nagh, those are being in DC as we speak. Be on the look out, & buy your guns now.Quote:
Originally Posted by TOW'D
I have no idea...LOL! It was sent to me. Feel free to use it as much as you like.....LOL!Quote:
Originally Posted by Hombre259
That has to be the saddest photo I have seen in a while.
Even sadder,its happening everywhere..
That has to be the saddest photo I have seen in a while..:(
Oops,seems to be an echo in here...:D
The interesting thing is that while the U.S. consumer is presented with almost everything made in China, I have read some articles that show the Economic slowdown is effecting China more than the U.S. since their economy assumes they can sell much of their goods to the U.S. The problem is that much of the U.S. heavy industry has disappeared and it has been noted that China does not have much of what is called service industries but it would seem to be difficult to buy a Chinese motorcycle with McDonalds cheeseburgers due to the distance involved. I like the business model where the Harley Davison employees bought and own the company. When the employees own the company there is much less of the them/us conflict between employer and unions and a lot more cooperation. Maybe Chrysler should offer the company shares to the workers since it looks like Chrysler is in the weakest position among the auto companies at the moment.
Don Shillady
Retires Scientist/teen rodder
I think they should bring the companys back home to the USA so we the people of the US can have JOBS thats my 2 cents worth And I'm not sorry to say they messed up when they left the US now no one has a job to buy there stuff when they ship it back
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Originally Posted by old cars
I agree! :mad:
Pat
No one would rather see things the way they use to be more then me. It would take more time then most of us have left to see the Steel Mills, Factories, manufacturing the way it was back in the 50’s and early 60’s. This was the last frontier. The Old West is gone. Greed took over, we have more but enjoy it less for the most part, and we are loosing that now in record numbers. I was at a discount store the other day, they use to have bargains from slightly damaged goods or close outs, now 95% of the inventory is China s-it. I found a box that had some odd piece’s like drill bits (Vermont American) I picked through and when I saw a bit with made in the USA it went in my cart. We will never see quality in this Country again. I wish I were wrong.
Richard
And don't forget to stock up on ammo.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dream Ride
Good Topic!!
The real big problem today is "Greed" How much stuff or money or power is enough? Today America is a land of Tigers ruled by a flock of Butterflys. We and that we means all of us have let the political scene get complettly out of hand. We elect these fools over and over again, no matter how bad or how corrupt they are. It doesn't seem to matter what there past history is we give them a bye when they get up on that podium and tell all of us any lies that they feel will get them re-elected.
Change was needed to the manufacturing plants in this country that were operating in the 50's and 60's. But those changes were for the most part inacted and put into operation, it was just to late. No body cared about all those folks that earned there living in those plants. There was more money to be made by sending those jobs elsewhere. And thats the word "MONEY".
There are major changes coming to this country, the life we know today won't be around for forever, it's going to change weather it changes for the good or the bad is yet to be determined.
For me and a lot of guys like me our glass's are half empty today. I am 63 years old and spent most of my life in the Marine Corps. I was there for 30 years and only wish I could have stayed another 30 years. But those 30 years take a toll on a feller, I've been shot stapped rode hard and put up wet way to many times. That was the price of admission, and I gladly paid that price and still wish it wasn't over for me. But hell everybody gets old sooner or later. But to tell you guys the truth if I had known I was going to live this long I sure would have taken better care of myself. So the changes that are coming are going to be up to you younger guys. It would be nice though to see some folks get there backs up and be pissed at what has happened.
I don't have a clue how to fix the problems we as a country have and are facing. But wouldn't it be great if a "MAN" would step up to the plate with some real ideas?
There is one fact that I do KNOW, maybe getting old does teach even the most hard headed of us, me in paticular, a few things. That fact is this: Of all the things we all deal with in our day to day life, the "LEAST" important by far is money. Don't misunderstand me you hace to have some, but to let it and the love of it rule what you do and don't do is just plan wrong.
Roland
Guess what: we outsource the production of US Passports to other countries.Quote:
Originally Posted by tango
It's disgraceful the things our government has done to us. It's not like American worker isn't competitive. Because of reduced shipping costs and increased worker productivity, unionized US labor is barely more expensive than Chinese sweatshop labor when you consider cost per unit instead of wage per hour (look at the studies of New Balance's US made shoes versus New Balance's China made shoes). The difference is in things like environmental laws. Get this - companies that make solar panels in China literally load all the toxic waste onto a dumptruck, drive the druck out just outside the company gates, and dump it all on the ground. And this is the country we decide to have free trade with?
You know how incandescent light bulbs have been scheduled to be phased out by legislation (which GE and Phillips fought for)? Incandescents are mostly made by unionized labor in the US and Canada. CFLs are made in China, and once again not because the less productive sweatshop labor by itself decreases costs, but because there is quite a bit of toxic waste produced when making CFLs and in China you can just dump it all wherever you want. The government is forcing people to buy a product they clearly don't want (CFLs have only a tiny portion of the market share even though they save consumers money in the long run, which is evidence that consumers simply do not like them) because the profit margin on producing the product is HUGE (they cost little more to make and bring to market than an incadescent bulb, but look at how much more the retail price is because they last longer under test conditions).
If it makes you old-timers feel better, I'm only 23, but don't feel too much better - most of my friends either don't care or believe the lies we are told.
Don Shillady, I don't know if there are any Ex, or Current United Airlines Employees on here, but, I would beg to differ about your opinion on ESOP Programs.The employees were required to participate and become partial owners in order to save the Co., and in the long run got SCREWED!!! BIG TIME!!!!
Keith...
Blwn31,
No I did not know the details of the Harley reorganization, I was just pleased to see a U.S. company survive when all the other bikes came from overseas. I recently visited folks living near the HD plant in Penna. and thought it is good the plant is still in operation compared to the last time I visited Pittsburg and learned that only one steel mill is still in operation! The same thing has happened with electronic companies. Two years ago I bought an RCA TV thinking it was the last U.S. electronics Co. only to find the RCA label was bought out and I think the actual company is in Mexico? Steel plants are another vanishing breed in the U.S. So you say employee ownership doesn't work? Tell me more, it does seem that HD is still producing bikes.
Don Shillady
Retired Scientist/teen rodder