I see several of you guys[who shall remain anonymous] mention something called the HAMB. Could somebody please tell me what this is, I just gotta know.:confused:
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I see several of you guys[who shall remain anonymous] mention something called the HAMB. Could somebody please tell me what this is, I just gotta know.:confused:
H.A.M.B. ---> http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/
Pat
It is another web site and forum for hotrodders. Also known as the.....................Hokey Ass Message Board or HAMB.
i look on there.. i never seen any thing that compelled me to join. if you like getting beat up looks like a good place to join
I will say I like it, I check in pretty often just like here. Guess I just haven't been beat up there yet, most of my beat up's were in my younger days, someone knocking me through windows that weren't opened. Thank God those days are over!!!
Richard
Lots of good read in the jalopy journal.
I have a bunch of good friends there but don't spend much time, it's too busy. A thread will fall off page three in a couple hours.
There is a tremendous wealth of talent and experience there. Any crap you have to go through is well worth it to have the likes of flat earnie or the Dirtys chip in and lend a hand with questions. Especially on vintage stuff.
It's a large group with lots of activity on the board. You can check in several times a day, and always find new posts.
All kinds of info there, but a couple things have driven me away. If you are not a solid fan of vintage rods ....the way they see it.... you will get heavy criticism, and there is no flexibility on that point. People who don't favor those cars will be labeled "gold chainers", or simply dismissed as not knowing anthing about "true" hot rods.
I would not recommend the site, unless you think primer, bias ply tires, and a 6 cylinder are components of the ultimate rod. I should mention that there are many members who like other things....but they remain silent.
The other thing that bothers me are the 4 cookies that are planted in my computer every time I visit, which slows it down a lot. I emailed them and complained, but the moderator clearly did not care if I liked it or not.......so I stopped visiting.
Yep, all of the comments above are pretty accurate. It has a huge membership, with some heavy hitters in car related businesses who are members, like Jesse James, and supposedly Jay Leno lurks (or maybe posts under a secret user name :cool: :cool: ) Things move fast there, post wise, and if you are into traditional hot rods and customs there is a wealth of information to be gotten.
I lurk, but don't post there, and find a lot of interesting threads to read. It is true that the majority of the members are focused on a very narrow area of hot rodding...........namely what they feel are cars built in the "traditional" way. Many don't like modern additions to a car, like electric fans and alternators, and some have no reservations about voicing their opinions when they feel the need.
But if you go on with a good attitude and don't try to change the tone of the forum, you will probably be ok. What ever you do, do not use the two words that will get you blasted, and those words are RAT ROD, The popcorn comes out when someone slips that term in.
A lot of our members are also on there, my own Son Dan is a member, and is treated very well. His being a member there is one reason I don't post on it.............he is only a member of that one forum, and it wouldn't be fair for me to encroach on his one little piece of privacy. I let him have that one all to himself.
Don
i first found HAM when i first got my computer and i did see some of the post i was thinking a bit coarse in the words they used.it did not do any thing for me . i found this form like it here. i think if i was over there it would just add to my hi blood pressure
I guess I'll skip it for now. The oldest thing I have is a 63 Nova, probably not what they consider a real hot rod. Maybe I'll visit when I get something a bit older. Thanks for all the replies guys, no shortage of help here!
The HAMB is not a bad place, but like has been said here it is dedicated to that group's definition of "vintage rods". I posted a question there once, and included that my concept was a '33 running Cragar SS big & littles and you would have thought I attacked someone's Mom!! You see, "...they did not HAVE Cragar's in the 30's, 40's, 50's so why would you even consider putting that "crap" on a car??" Lot's of good info and many very talented people - you just have to ask any questions from "their" arena, and omit any details that include something from later than about 1955. :toocool: :LOL:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sinister
Considering the amount of activity on that site there isn't too much of value to me..I don't waste my time there anymore..I'm sure there are a lot of good folks there but the jerks take the center stage..Kind of like going back to elementary school..
Seems like a good time to mention something I've noticed.
I belong to several message boards, and a percentage of them have been taken over by radical personalities, who seem to be there to promote their own likes, and discourage anyone with a different outlook.
My home town is an example. Their message board seems dominated by poitical radicals. Every subject seems to be diverted to those issues, and I feel like I'm in Idaho or something. The result is that I have almost stopped going to the site, and am very hesitant to post.
I don't know how moderators can control that (If they aren't a part of the problem) but I think the only way is to have a code of respectful behavior, and enforce it to the point of giving the worst offenders "the boot".
In the world of cars, I have very broad interests, and in the world of people, I believe in everyone's right to their own opinion. That is why I am on this site every day......and I enjoy it! My thanks to the moderators. :-)
Been a member there for over 10 years.
Always been treated well even though I drive a Wescott bodied 32 roadster, make my own aluminum parts and do things a little different in some cases.
What does happen over there is the influx of what I call the 14 year old syndrome of opinionated wanna-bee hot rodders every once in a while.
And my apologies to right thinking, non-opinionated 14 year olds, we have a bunch of those as well and they're a pleasure.
It's ok to have opinions, but best to express those like you would in person when you're hanging out in someones garage.
Differences are politely expressed most times, but the problem seems to be the cyber tough guys.
Nuff said there.
Lotta women on the board as well.
They get treated with utmost respect just like they do here.
Seems like the HAMB is on a downward trend of the opinionated wanna-bee crowd population-wise so things are getting better.
Plus, we're having a two week 'tech week' going on and that always brings out some interesting stuff.
Don't quote me, but I think the cut-off date for cars is 1964.
Even so, if you're having a tuning problem that could pertain to any hot rod, they'll talk to you and offer some good advice.
No different than any board that specializes.
I wouldn't go on a Chevy board and ask FE questions.
Keep in mind as well Mark Twain's comments about 14 year olds and fathers.
Works the other way around as well....
Most of the time newbs who get roughed up didn't bother to read what the board was about and just blundered in. When I first posted I got dogpiled about some comment I made in a discussion about what new SUV to buy. I came back and told the guy that if anyone ever talked like that to my face, one of us wouldn't be getting up. I never had another problem after that, just a few keyboard tough guys that need stood down, not near as bad as it used to be though.
FWIW, flat black and red wheels are pretty laughable to the general populace there, and don't mention the RR word, Ryan deleted a whole thread I started because I used that term.
If you ever lurk or register, look at the stuff AV8, Mike Bishop, JimA or pendajo build, and also Dirty31. The stuff these guys do is worth the looking. Lots of others too.
I'm an Alliance member over there & never had any problems. Most of the bad mouthing & fighting is by the young crowd who only see their way & weren't even around "In the day".
There's a big FNG initation that goes on which I don't agree with but there quite the knowledge if you can wade through the BS.
I'm a member there and never posted. Probably never will. I take offense to being referred to as a FNG but of course if you poney up some cash you be an instant alliance member. Although since I never post I will always be a FNG. :rolleyes: There's an apparent affiliation with the moderator Ryan and Austin Speed Shop that I did not know even existed until this year. I have lived in Austin since 1980. :LOL: Ryan seems to be a good guy to me.
But too much attitude over there for me personally to want to get involved in. But I like to watch the fireworks there and they are prevalent. :LOL:
Kitz
Like Steve, I am also an Alliance Member on the HAMB. I used to post there frequently, but lately I haven't had the time to do much anyplace including here. I have never been ridiculed or roughed up there, but some have had their butts singed pretty weill. Those who get flamed do so from just asking stupid questions or making statements that will bring out the most critical of members. Like anyplace else you've got to put your brain in gear before your mouth (or keyboard).:eek: I have noticed lately that there has been a growth in members who are less critical of people who don't own traditional rods.:) Of course, every board has their share of A-holes and posers. And the HAMB is no different. :cool:
im shocked jay! your a member with value , i dont understand why you feel this way..Quote:
Originally Posted by HOTRODPAINT
I guess in my old age, I just don't have the patience with rude behavior that I used to have. :-)~
this is messed up , if you dont dig the H.A.M.B. dont cruise the forums , most hambers dont really care anyway , if you want the touchy feel good stuff stay here , if you post something to CHR that goes against the grain bill will be more than happy to delete said post and most members will never see it in the first place , all this HAMB bitchin is pointless and there are quite a few members of the HAMB right here on this site that you would consider friends..
ok bill delete
So either you're IN or you're OUT?:confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by flh4speed
Pick & choose your threads. They're not all a blood bath. Lots of valuable stuff there when you sort through it.Quote:
Originally Posted by HOTRODPAINT
Like this one.
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...d.php?t=296149
I am on Hamb. Got a warm welcome. Read more than I post, don't mind being a FNG, since I guess I am. I take the attitude that some have with a grain. Lot's of knowledge there and I am super impressed with some fo the talent. I am following an amazing chop and customize of a 4 door Packard: Simply amazing work: http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...d.php?t=280940
There are so many posts there that I can't keep up, must be thousands posting there.
Pat
I tried to register lastnight, but somebody already has the name "Sinister". I'll have to think up a new persona, kinda reinvent myself, like so many musicians do!
I guess it is like any other forum, lots of pluses and minuses. Some people complain about forums like CHR and others like RRR, as being too restrictive in some of the language and other behavior that we don't tolerate. It's all in the eye of the beholder.
I think a lot of it depends on how and when you were raised. I was taught to respect others, especially women, and to watch my language when around them. I know the world has changed a lot, and this is now 2008, but I still can't bring myself to use certain words in the company of ladies, even if they are doing it themselves. When I am out with the guys it is a different story. So some of the words typed on the HAMB do bother me somewhat because I see that some of their membership is female, and I also imagine a lot of young, future rodders frequent the site. To me it is teaching a whole new generation that it is ok to say certain things, and act a certain way.
On the plus side, there certainly is a wealth of information there, especially if you are into early style hot rods, like I am. The membership there has also done some very nice things, like the hot rod they helped the young man who is suffering from a very serious illness build, because it is his dream. That was one of the nicest things I have ever seen happen, and I commend them all for the actual work they did on the car, and for the encouraging posts many of them wrote. The kid has had a very rough time of it, and I bet the kindness of the members made his life a whole lot easier and more fun.
I do occasionally send a PM to some member there if I feel he has gotten an incomplete answer to some question he has asked, or if he has been beat up on for posting some "inappropriate" question or used those two dreaded words. Some have come over to CHR or RRR because of me PM-ing them, and most have stayed on as contributing members. I didn't want them to be turned off about forums in general, and to let them know there are sites where their particular interests might fit in better.
As for the rudeness there, I think I see it diminishing a little. At one time it was like a pack of wolves. When the flaming began, everyone piled on. But lately it seems there are only a couple of members who seem to lay in wait for someone to post some tidbit that allows them to jump in and act all brave and superior. I see more and more where members will chastise another member for being rude, and tell them there is no reason to act that way. That is a good change IMO. It takes no more effort to be kind to someone than to treat them badly, so why not do the right thing?
Don
I've been a long time member of HAMB, lurk monthly, probably have not posted there in the last three years (or on another 10 forums I still belong to and lurk on)....Yes it is different than CHR and RRR and others, but that is what makes it (and the rest) so unique to the members who spend time there. As with every other forum (this one included) it has it's ups and downs that either you agree with or disagree with. As long as you can remember that not everyone can agree all the time, you'll be alright. Where each and every one falls in to trouble is when senior members forget that at one time they too were newbies and they lose a certain perspective. Either that or they have finished their builds, are set in their ways, and cannot imagine that there are other ways to build their vehicles in someone elses eyes. Speaking candidly I cannot say one forum is better than the other, just different, that's all. In closing, don't let anyone sway you because of this or that, follow your own heart and your own path when it comes to these forums and don't take what is posted (even if pointed specifically at you) personally.
Off to the shop.
Bill S.
im in on both , i have folks i consider friends here and there , viva le CHR and viva la H.A.M.B.Quote:
Originally Posted by Supa Roosta
I'm a member of both as well. I love the history of hotrodding and the HAMB has a lot of historical information. I try to avoid the drama and concentrate on the history and tech posts.
There is also some great tech on this board as well.
Mick
Cool!Quote:
Originally Posted by flh4speed
I just signed up over there, I'm gonna keep my hands in my pockets and my mouth shut!
Dont ever mention words like "billet", "fiberglass", "hidden hinges", "nice glossy paint", or even "SBC, or small block chevy". I read a thread there about a guy who got so sick of fixing the flatty in his 32, he actually thought for a second about going to a SBC. He got blasted for even thinking about it. Like anything, there are pluses and minuses. But an open mind is something they normally dont have.
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Originally Posted by nutbush
I am all of the above,also a member of the HAMB.A large portion of the members and moderator are in the Austin area I don't post a lot but when I do I take what I need and leave the rest (BS) to wilt on the vine.
Nutbush wrote:I've been an Alliance Member over there for a while now, and I don't find that statement to be particularly true. True, they ain't real fond of billet but the rest of the words don't bring much attention except for a few hardcore members. There are quite a few glass car owners with or without glossy paint. The biggest issue with the SBC is the abundance of them, not the engine itself. Many early hotroders moved to the early sbc's, especially the 265's, 283's and the 327's. They also favored the early Olds' and Caddy engines. The early Olds's engines and the 327's hold a level of endurement not too dissimiliar then of the flatties.Quote:
Dont ever mention words like "billet", "fiberglass", "hidden hinges", "nice glossy paint", or even "SBC, or small block chevy". I read a thread there about a guy who got so sick of fixing the flatty in his 32, he actually thought for a second about going to a SBC. He got blasted for even thinking about it. Like anything, there are pluses and minuses. But an open mind is something they normally dont have.
I see more flaming done because of FNG's who come just to badger or to start talking trash about rodding 1980 or newer cars and trucks or trying to create an illusion by using fake parts on newer engines.
Just like any place else, you get as good as you give. As far as their Moderator, Ryan, I have had several conversations with him and although he is a hardcore traditionalist, he always finds the time to help members seeking info and assistance. I would imagine it's not an easy thing trying to maintain some kind of order to a forum with over 55,000 members..:eek: :LOL: :LOL:
Also, even though you don't need to be an Alliance Member to be a participating member of the forum, the Alliance membership cost, which isn't real cheap, can be worth it if you are into buying merchandise for your rides. The discounts earned can easily pay for the membership, at least it has for me.:D
If you really enjoy being a masochist try OlSkool Rodz ,you'll :CRY: :mad: :CRY:Quote:
Originally Posted by pat mccarthy
You just have to learn to eat the meat and spit out the bones. I don't condone that ill behavior at all but it is easily avoided and worth the effort.
I have a grand total of 12 posts there under my current name (same thing happened there to my screen name as here), but have probably another 20 or so under my old name. I mostly lurk, and at that, seldom as there are just too many forums, often with the same info that don't allow some posts.
My biggest complaint is that they really don't have the forum broken down like most do, like here in categories so you tend to lose some cohesiveness and that many wont go back more then a few hours. I did go in with my eyes open - but some folks do seem to be intolerant of others views so I try to avoid their confrontational issues - and the language sometimes gets a bit too far into nastiness - but, that's HAMB. Then there is my car which is well billeted:LOL: :LOL:
Just curious...what is RRR?
Maybe 'we' just need to not give a 'hoot'! Really, why do we care if someone doesnt like something we do specificallly to our machines. Yeah....I get offended too sometimes...but then I remember that its just someone displaying a stronger opinion than what I usually display. I say.....ask for opinions....but stick to your guns when it relates to a style...or what is obtainable for you at the time. I feel for the guy. I like the look of the flat head....but unless your building a nastalic rod....why? Can get much more hp/$ with a different combo. JMO. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by nutbush
Dave G
Don,Quote:
Originally Posted by Don Dalton
I dont suppose your a gamer?.....Call of Duty 2? I met up with a bunch of these guys that play on the server in Austin. I was just wondering how many of these folks are CHR members? I think the clan was SRS Clan. I thought I'd be the oldest player but I'm actually mid-level in age. Just curious.
Dave G
LOL's. :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by JeffB2
Dave G
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Originally Posted by Daffy427
Rodding Round Table.
Run by a couple of especially knowledgeable guys . . . Fat Cat and Enjenjo.
The stuff they know is flat amazing....:cool:
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Originally Posted by IC2
Fwiw, the HAMB now has classifications for posts, Technical, History, etc.
You can note the classification in advanced search and it's been a help so far.