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Originally Posted by shawnlee28
You are right about the car running on any type of water.
This was the thread 6-13-08
The Tata Nano!
http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/play...26714&src=news It looks like a dead link now.
This link will take you to it.
http://gizmodo.com/5016343/genepax-u...-water-and-air
Richard
Richard, I enjoyed that thread! What a cool car. Wouldn't be nice to see it go into production! Reasonably priced too! :cool:
Now if you had to power it with bottled water, it could get expensive! Bottled water is more expensive than gas sometimes! :D
Steve, it would be nice especially for people going to and from work, short trips, what a savings that would be. Then get the Hot Rod out for the weekend cruises.:toocool:
Richard
Richard, I'm not sure if I've seen a picture of your hot rod. Any chance you could post one? I like putting vehicles with people, it's sort of like associating faces with voices!:3dSMILE:
I'd also love to have a car like that one for the daily commute! Not just to save gas money, but to lower all the smog caused by all of the cars on the hiway everyday. We are pretty lucky in the North Bay Area, in that the urban sprawl of the bay area doesn't effect us too much. But on really hot days, they issue spare the air alerts in San Francisco. The water powered car is also small, which is cool because it fits with the whole SMART car movement.
I like the idea of using less daily to fuel the Hot Rod for weekends!:)
Just a little reminder that S. Carnot derived the efficiency formula for ANY heat engine in terms of the higher and lower temperatures of operation as:
Eff. = (T-high - T-low)/ T-high
The temperatures are in degrees Kelvin and for ANY heat engine since the Thermodynamic cycle of ANY heat engine can be represented on Carnot-cycle graph paper and the internal cycles will only add up along the outer path of the real engine but it still gives the same formula. In order to make the engine more efficient you have to raise the T-high temperature (higher compression helps there) and lower the exhaust temperature somehow by extracting more work out of the engine. The 37% efficiency mentioned above is very respectable for a well tuned internal combustion engine and it will be hard to improve on that for any ICE, but maybe an advanced form of steam engine could do better (restore that Stanley Steamer in your barn!). I just spent two weeks of summer school deriving and proving this; the Final Exam is on Wednesday!
Don Shillady
Retired Scientist/teen rodder
Don what are your thoughts on the water powered car? I noticed a batery in it, and wonder if it needs to be charged externally for the hydrogen converter to work?
People, it's not a water powered car, it's a hydrogen powered car. The fact that the hydrogen comes from water is immaterial. If the converter was a separate unit that you left in your garage, the whole cycle would be more efficient due to not having to lug around that weight.
I beg to differ with you, I myself was very interested in it to the point I've shown it to every one that comes into my office. The main problem with that concept is that the state and feds would loose untold billions in taxes not to mention the fact that oil companys would loose their grip on people.Quote:
Originally Posted by ford2custom
Steve, I have a few unfinished cars. I have a 454 I had planned on putting in this one but gas was maybe $2.69 a gallon.:( This one I would like to have finished, I might have to drag it out to Dave!! I guess I could call it a cross country drag???.:toocool:
Thanks Steve, now I'll have to at least get it in rat rod primer, before some ask how it is coming.:LOL:
pizzi-man
I should have said some people.
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looks good Richard. With a 454 that Ford Tudor will fly!:D
