Thread: erik and others whats the going rate??

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Originally Posted by gassersrule_196

well a bottle of octane boost wouldnt burn my spirits either well when you put a 366 crank in a 454 whats that turn it into ? man i really need to do my homework, hey at least im willing to listen

bore is 4.250 454 block or 427. and any crank 366/427 is 3.760 crank will make a 427 you need 427 pistons and any big block rod for a low buck build would be a stock 6.135 long rod

Originally Posted by erik erikson

Pat,I was looking at the old PBM catalog.
I think you can build a 496 for about $50 more than a 454.
How long do you think a set of hyper. pistons will last in a low 11 sec. car??
If Scooter had said low 12 sec. car I would say run the hypers. but in a low 11 sec. I am having my doubts.

yes they are not much more money to build a 496 and that is the way i go on all my low buck builds i run the speed pro hypers and run them on many builds but i have never hard any come apart but if he going to sray NOS and then it is a JE/SRP for sure i run the hypers to there big side of spec for hard beating they say they do not grow much but on very hard use i would not bet on that

getting je/srp pistons would be fine. a guy up here just picked up a set of kb's they looked pretty nice you know me better then that, no nos

Originally Posted by gassersrule_196

getting je/srp pistons would be fine. a guy up here just picked up a set of kb's they looked pretty nice

i would say away from the KB for this build i feel better with the speed pro s or a srp piston

Originally Posted by pat mccarthy

yes they are not much more money to build a 496 and that is the way i go on all my low buck builds i run the speed pro hypers and run them on many builds but i have never hard any come apart but if he going to sray NOS and then it is a JE/SRP for sure i run the hypers to there big side of spec for hard beating they say they do not grow much but on very hard use i would not bet on that

Yes,I have been running the Speed Pro's also with very good luck in most of the street 496 builds.
If this is more of a bracket car then I would look at a set of the SRP pistons or if there is any chance of nitrous oxide being used.

yes it will see some race useage bu tlike i said be more like 60 % street 40% race and remember 500 mile road trips or more

Originally Posted by pat mccarthy

i would say away from the KB for this build i feel better with the speed pro s or a srp piston

I have seen to many of the KB pistons just lift the tops off just above the top ring land.
I have run the Speed Pro's up to about the 575 hp level without problems.

so it can be done for 3500 or less, thats awesome.

Originally Posted by gassersrule_196

so it can be done for 3500 or less, thats awesome.

I would say it can be done for $3,500 with a solid lift cam but if you go mech. roller or hyd. roller or add the SRP pistons I would say you would be closer to $3,800 and as much as $4,000.
It really depends on how good you want it and how cheap you can find a 454 core block and 049 or 781 heads.

just a good build to pop off low 12's mid 11's would be perfectly fine. id run a solid cam yes. because it still ahs to be somewhat streetable to drive from spokane to the coast

now ive just gotta learn to not buzz them 7500?

Originally Posted by gassersrule_196

now ive just gotta learn to not buzz them 7500?

Yes,I am thinking more like 6,200 to 6,300 rpms.

can low 12's mid 11's be done with 373's? see i am not use to high gears gota make it highway able and track ready. with the 4 speed it should be to hard on the road. so whats the easy way go find a 454 and build a 468 like what pat was saying or just stick to a tall decker?

Originally Posted by gassersrule_196

can low 12's mid 11's be done with 373's? see i am not use to high gears gota make it highway able and track ready. with the 4 speed it should be to hard on the road. so whats the easy way go find a 454 and build a 468 like what pat was saying or just stick to a tall decker?

Yes,using a 3.73 gear and a 4-speed with a 496 low deck,solid lift cam, a low 12 sec. pass is done very easily if you can get enough traction.
The tall deck blocks may require different exhaust headders.

fenderwell headers anyway clearance for the motor and exhaust will not be a problem at all either. now what about the hipo 396 wasnt there a 425 horse version