The local news has memos sent out by Supervisors that troopers were to increase DWI arrest or face punishment, up to 4 a week...... What a freaking joke! :mad:
Man I cant even imagine this sort of thing going on.
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The local news has memos sent out by Supervisors that troopers were to increase DWI arrest or face punishment, up to 4 a week...... What a freaking joke! :mad:
Man I cant even imagine this sort of thing going on.
I don't see the problem with it.
The drunks are out there driving, the cops should be busting them.
There is a real problem there. It should be every drunk they can find. Drunks are just as bad as teenagers driving with cell phones.:) Maybe even as bad as adults with cells.
A few years back, there was a city that had 1/3 of their force off, for on duty injuries. The local County Sheriff was contracted to fill in. One Sheriff traffic car arrested more DUIs in 1 month than their force did all year. After that, the city thought about disbanding their local police force and contracting with the Sheriffs. However, the Sheriff refused to absorb the personnel that was off, so it fell through.
A few years ago Tennessee had a campaign going that said if you are caught drunk driving, you will automatically get 11-29 (11 months, 29 days in jail). Had a 26 year old guy working for us in the welding shop I managed. Got a call one morning that he got busted drunk driving...I thought "good, its his 5TH":eek: !!!
Guess what he got for his 5th DUI in 4 years while driving on a suspended license (for the 4 OTHER offenses)... 5 weekends!:mad: Every friday at 3 pm he left work and reported to the county jail. Monday morning at midnight, he was released to go home. The laws only seem to punish the "good" people that make a mistake anymore. Makes NO sense...
I think you guys are missing the point ,or maybe I am, but the way I took it from the way it was reported it was bad. First off the cops should be looking for drunk drivers 100 percent of their time! If they have not been finding many and are know forced,pushed, and have it in their best interest to come up with drunk drivers for their job. Now they are forced to come up with drunk drivers by all means.....
Dont know, drunk drivers are bad news ,I agree that 100%. Just seems kind of sh*ty they way there going about. Theres a right way and a wrong way of going about things and this just doesn't seems right.....
What kind of trash is that????? Heck, I think they should be required to issue about 10 DWI's a week to even be able to show they are doing their job!!!!! There sure are enough drunks on the road that it wouldn't be a problem finding that many!!!!!! Sounds like Houston is finally waking up to the fact that drunk driving is a MAJOR problem!!!!!!!! Hope more places institute the same program!!!!!!! Get them the heck off the road!!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by BigTruckDriver
it frightens me very much to know how many times i have been out in one of my toys so drunk i dont remember how i got home .. finally a trooper caught me about a year ago and scared me straight .. much more drunk and fast driving enforcement must be done .. citizens with cell phones need to help by reporting eratic driving of any kind .. .. just dont bother the hot rodders ... thats a dif breed of driver ..
BigTruck, I am in agreement with you, the point seems to be that they were either letting them go, or not stopping them at all. I will pick up the cell and report someone driving eratticly if I see it. My point was just to show that even if they are picked up, it doesn't mean they won't just get a slap on the wrist and be right back at it...
Each county handles DUI's different, depending upon jail space. Even countries are different. In Japan, if you have alcohol on your breath, it's one year in jail, regardless of the amount. In El Salvador, there is only one conviction for DUI because the punishment is death by firing squad.
I know cops that have never made a DUI arrest. I asked them why, they said it was because it was 3X the paperwork and they never bothered to learn/be comfortable with the intoxilizer. Sounded kinda lazy to me. My brother just became Chief of Police at a local city. Hes already fired 3 cops for laziness and its been less than a year.
It'll mean that troopers will hang out near places that serve liquor and watch as patrons exit. They do this to some degree anyhow. To increse any arrest numbers law enforcement has to go to where the problem is. It won't mean that while sitting there a priority call that comes will be ignored.
The example Max related is the real problem. Multiple arrests, licences revoked decades ago and they're still doin' it.
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Ill give ya my twisted take on it ,if I cant drink and drive as in ,1 or 2 beers ,then all the bars and restaraunts should not be able to sell liquor peroid.........I come from a place in the mid west where drinking and driving were legal until not too many years ago.
Of course you can not be drunk ,only drinking as in a beer or 2..........I think the problem came when they changed the laws to driving under the influence ,instead of DWI or driving while intoxicated,now with the new laws you can enjoy the same punishment for having one beer as the guy who drank a 1/5 of jack and was driving on the wrong side of the freeway...sound fair to you.....
I can see why the officers do not arrest every single preacher and school teacher they pull over after going to TGI fridays for lunch and having a mixed drink or a glass of wine or a beer.
These officers are our last defence against a force of fools who want all of us inside the big house for having a beer..................
Its almost involuntary entrapment if you ask me .......heres a place you can only drive to ,to drink ,but you cant drive after you drink.....:eek:
Just let me make clear I do not condone drunken driving ,I am only saying a beer at lunch or after work is not a felony crime ,punishable by imprisonment.
Now on a personal note ,liquor is the worst thing to have been legalized,it completely alters a persons actions to the point of little memory of what happend the night before ..... gee thanks government.....:CRY:
I on the other hand live in beatiful cali ...home of the medicinal erbs ,I can have 6 ounces of lettuce on me at one time and smoke where I like with the medical card,I have never seen or heard of a person smokin enuff that they could not function in a normal manner,we are well on our way to legalization out here.
A much better alternative to alchaholism and all the medical complications that come from drinking.
None of it is any good ,but the towns people must do sumtin to release or they get the pitch forks and shovels out and start to drive the people in charge out of town,or worse yet.......they turn on each other ,just look back into real histories pages ,not the alice in wonderland garbage you learn in school ,but real actual events in history ,without the perceptual twist being put on it.
All the drug stuff ,including liquor just keeps the town folk quiet,when they aint got ,mothers little helpers, they just go luny and nuts .
Could you even imagine if America was off all drugs ,like caffiene ,nicotine ,liquor ,pot ..etc... It would be like escape from newyork 24 hours a day......
Maybe they weren't getting so many DWI's in the first place cause they just did not want to go through the paper work, which is wrong, dont know. Now that there job is on the line there going to find them by all means. Just doesnt sit well with me , now they are forced to get them some drunk drivers. They are state troopers a big % of arrest would be DUI's on the highways, i would think.
I guess my complaint is,Whats next??????
I never get drunk and drive and it pisses me off to see others do it.
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Originally Posted by BigTruckDriver
Drunk driving is wrong.... Nothing can be said to justify it. Looks to me like it is nothing more then an emphasis being put on it... Why does the reason matter if it gets more drunk drivers off the road....and makes many, many others stop driving while under the influence....
Guess I can't understand why you would be against anything designed to make the roads a safer place!!! Hard enough dodging the sober ones who are "impaired" by cell phone use, screaming kids, or whatever else they choose as a form of distraction. The drunks are almost impossible to avoid!!!!!
Yer right Shawn, it's just another Big Brother Conspiracy!!!!!:LOL: :LOL: :LOL:Quote:
Originally Posted by shawnlee28
I am not against ANYTHING that will make are roads safer. I dont understand why you feel that it is ok for the troopers not to be doing their job to begin with, only when they were forced too. The drunk drivers are not magically appearing just to meet their Quota, they have ALWAYS been there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave Severson
I don't like quota's regardless of who is running them. Cops should be arresting every dwi outlaw they catch....legally. Not just going after someone because of a quota.
I don't belong to any kind of organization to stop drunks from driving but there is a problem and the problem needs to be solved somehow. Maybe the problem is in the courts where the drunks seem to get off too often. Fines and penalties don't seem to work, and yanking their license don't work either, they just drive without one. Accidents invoving a DWI are too often fatal and too often tragic such as the one recently in Ohio. One mother and four children dead in a head on with a drunk in a pickup. :eek: Drunk lived.:mad: He could get up to 50 years in jail. Odds are he won't.:mad:
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The drunk drivers are out there, if the Troopers are not finding them, they need a push in the right direction. It's a matter of priority and it sounds like the priority just got raised. 4 a week, that sounds like 1 per shift. Good for the supervisors!
Pat
:LOL: :LOL: Guess I don't see your point then... Who cares what the motivation is to get drunk driver's off the road????? Cops are just people doing a job...and as with an employee, the occasionally need a little push in the right direction, and someone to point out where there priorities should be.... Everyone should go to work, do their job to the best of their abilities, and adjust their priorities and work practices to make the company as profitable as possible....That ain't gonna happen in any large scale, why would cops be any different????? Cops are just people doing a job for less money then they should be making and probably more closely watched and criticized by people then any other occupation. Everybody is an "expert" on law enforcement, too bad so few are willing to actually live in the fish bowl and do the job. Reminds me of my time with one "previous employer", we had a sign that said, "We, the unwilling led by the unqualified do the unthinkable for the ungrateful". hmmmm..Maybe being a cop is a lot like that?????Quote:
Originally Posted by BigTruckDriver
Salesmen have quotas, production workers have quotas, military recruiters have quotas, heck isn't every occupation held to some sort of performance standard????? Quotas are a motivating force to do a specific task in an efficient manner a certain number of times.... I'd guess cops are subject to these same motivating forces as folks in any other occupation....Quote:
Originally Posted by mopar34
As for quotas for capturing drunk drivers, who cares as long as it works?????
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Originally Posted by Dave Severson
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You must live where they give a dam about doing their job, I deal with cops just about every day, and I think most patrol cops, not all, need a good slap on the side of the head to reset them on what their job is to do.
Don't get me wrong! I wish they did do more, not less around here!
Pat
Cops and troopers should do thier jobs after all its what are state taxes go for right? but as far as drinking and driving its not something i agree with. i've lost friends and classmates. But me for example I may stop in and visit and say hi to friends and have 2 or 3 beers and be on my way but other times when i do sit there all night and hanging out with friends partying it up thats when you call for a ride home or crash at a friends house on a couch or somethin and get your wheels in the morning.
Or even call a cab for that matter. you have money to drink you can call a cab to get a ride home if you live in the city but a true friend is willing to get you home safely. No DUI no accidents no deaths. But bartenders also have the right to quit serving someone thats had to much. Hell bartenders are nice enough to call a cab for you if you ask.
That's a good idea Speedy. Whining about it being legal to drive to a place that serves liquor and not being able to leave legallly sober at lunch tells me somebody has a problem. It's not the 1-2 beers it's the pitcher full or the 4-5 beers.
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