old ford in the dirt

A friend come over to visit and started looking around and telling me about "this old car" he was going to build that's going to blow my doors off :LOL: . After I stopped laughing , he proceeded to ask if I would go help him pick it up. I said "ya why not " I went with him to look and see how we were going to pull in and see which trailer I needed to hook up :D and I haven't seen a ball of fire on wheels, in a while :LOL: :rolleyes:
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I told him for the money he will sink into it, he should just keep looking or go glass. **) he told me I was getting "JADED" and didn't understand the new guy trying to get into playing with cars and "that if I didn't want to help I didn't have to!":rolleyes: . So I told him I'd post the story here ( he's been lurking ) and he would get real opinions . " :) please keep in mind he's going to ask me for help on this p.o.S. :whacked: "

I think it would make a cool yard pretty.


T L

Well....at least he's got hope for it! It'd be cool just to stick her back together as good as possible and put a hell of a motor in front of it. But wow! that looks like alot of work.. Good luck :toocool:

What's the matter Treekiller...............no imagination??? :rolleyes: :eek: :LOL:

I'm all for saving old cars, but you are right, that one is beyond reasonably saving. Let's face it, ANYTHING CAN BE SAVED, with enough skill, time, and $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
but the pieces that are left of that car are absolutely too far gone to even think about. Even rat rodders would shy away from that one.

You are being a good friend, but sometimes friends don't want to take advice and have to learn for themselves. All you can do is what you have done here, whether he listens or not is the big question.

Don


PS: That is a four door sedan, and the entire strength of that body came from wood, and guess what the ants ate up a long time ago???

that pile is worth what it weighs . it is all thats left of a fordor. it would not even make a good parts car. doubt that it would ever see the road. if brought to my shop i would just smile and pass.

Geeeeez Tommy, you sound like you've been hangin' around us grumpy ol' farts too long!:D

Well
I think ,I'm just being realistic. :cool:

For some one thats not independently wealthy and has never built a car before and lives in town so he can't store it in the field till all this comes together . From what I've seen , I'm thinking : first week spent cleaning looking at pictures of how you want it to look , 2nd spent realizing what needs to be done and how much the repops are ,3rd finding more stuff that you thought you knew , then it just spirals from there all the while your wife is saying "why did Tommy make you buy that ... Than'G ... taking my space in the garage " > you have to mentally hear this in a very ShRilL voice over and over :p ---- > " she's not my wife -DuDe" :LOL:

I am not saying it can not be done.
" I'm all for bring the old stuff back and I don't care if it's a Ford,Chevy,John Deere , Kiser, or a Schwinn IDON'T CARE ! "
But there is a lot more to this then just what you see on t.v. That's what started this whole thing " I like Mr.Falschlehner truck also but Dang ! step back a minute and think.
I don't mind digging it up ,loading ,& hauling it but I don't think anything will ever come of that car, other then a really good story ... some of these guys have forgot more then some will ever know. Thats why this is a little funny :)

T L

Tommy, you bring up a very valid point. All of these TV shows on building bikes and cars have lots of people thinking it's a piece of cake. "Heck, they built that one in a one hour show.....how hard can it be??"

I'm all for new people coming into the hobby, and everybody has to start somewhere, but a good percentage of these folks are headed in the wrong direction to start out. Even a seasoned builder would shy away from what amounts to half of a fordor sedan, and not a very good one to boot.

I have always said a first timer should either buy a car that is done, and make it his/her own, or a mostly finished project that they have some chance of completing. Anyone who has done one from drawings on the garage floor knows it ain't easy.

Don

Oh, heck Tree, he can do it.
Lets see: $2000.00 for patch panels.
600.00 for replacement wood
200.00 for more wood cause he
cut the first pieces a inch too short
6000.00 (at least) for a frame
2000.00 for used quality running gear

2000.00 (at least)to a competant body man to straighten
all the warpage caused by welding replacement
panels to rusted metal
3000.00 for miscellaneous like brakes, brake lines, etc, etc
2000.00 (at least for minor body work and paint job.
1000.00 for glass (maybe more)
$18,800 Total and it's not done yet.

Wouldn't be a lot better just to go by a finished rod that he could modify to make it his own. **) **) :LOL: :LOL:

Just realized I haven't gotten to the cost of buying replacement doors from Ebay or whatever and then finding out they don't match.

Nights and weekends ,with a full time job ,that puts the car at about a 15 to 20 year project...........

Yeah, Shawn, you are right there. That's one of the reasons I recommended he buy an existing older rod and practice on it making it his style, before he tries to resurrect any old body. That one in Tree's picture is way to far gone anyway.

Heck the front half of the body doesn't seem to be there at all.

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Yeah, Shawn, you are right there. That's one of the reasons I recommended he buy an existing older rod and practice on it making it his style, before he tries to resurrect any old body. That one in Tree's picture is way to far gone anyway.

Heck the front half of the body doesn't seem to be there at all.

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Oh no!
Duane the guy that owns the land said it's there ...:rolleyes: frame also :eek: " we just don't know how bad it is..." ( there is not an icon here for this statement! ) you just have to look around right there to find all the parts.
Didn't you see one of the fenders in the water ? Shesss!:rolleyes: part of the hood is a little ways down the creek/ditch.
But a long long time ago they needed the wheels for something else .
I'm still waiting for the e-mail when he reads your earlier post .

T L

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Oh no!
Duane the guy that owns the land said it's there ...:rolleye
I'm still waiting for the e-mail when he reads your earlier post .

T L

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I am with you treekiller, I really hope that wakes him up!!:)

Well, it is worth something!!! Scrap iron is up again!!! I've parted out a whole lot nicer bodies then that!!! Don't even really see much for usable body sections on that one....

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I was thinking the coolest yard toy for my boy ever, make it where I can weed eat under it ,four tires to play in, a little grinding and folding the sharp edges, lots of bright flames :LOL: maybe even a wooden flathead **) :LOL:

" maybe that'll keep him out of the future projects " :D
I'd have to put it out with the dogs to keep the ratrodders away from it maybe in the back yard so they can't see it at all , that would also stop all the looky-lus who want to tell me about what they'd do with it.:LOL:

Update: some ones LOVELY wife has been reading today & I think some one did some searching and figuring today "he was on ebay last I heard" ;)

> "And yes I apologize for the ShRilL voice comment but you are higher pitched then my wife & you would be blaming me" :D " And yes ,tell him I did buy the 67' because the guy needed the cash and yes I will sell it, come on by and drive it , we can wait... somthing will come along ":)

you just never can tell who is reading these forums :o

thanks for all the replys.

T L

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.........you just never can tell who is reading these forums :o
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And the voices only talk to you?

:3dSMILE: :LOL:

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And the voices only talk to you?

:3dSMILE: :LOL:

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I hear them, too!!! Heck I can hear cars, trucks, and small dogs talking to me, too!!! Do you think there's something wrong with my dog?????:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

voices?... that's the least of my worries, some times I see them in my house.

ummm?... When the cars and trucks talk Dave ... do they sound like sexy women ? ? ? ?


why don't the 4x4s sound more butch?

When that hulk is dug out, everything below the surface is going to be gone. It also looks like it's broken in half or collapsed in front of the rear doors. My advice: Run screeeeeeeaming :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: away from that wreck.

Jack
- The bullet holes are cool, though . . .

Get it out of there any way as there might be something on it someone could use and check the area around it very good as most of it could be there. Jeff

The only hope for that is about ten grand worth of metal working tools, and a year of full time labor.

It would be cool to see it saved, but if he spent $5K on a good starter car, that year of time would produce a lot more results.

I'd jack up the car, save the bullet holes and recycle the rest. . . :rolleyes:

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voices?... that's the least of my worries, some times I see them in my house.

ummm?... When the cars and trucks talk Dave ... do they sound like sexy women ? ? ? ?

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Nope, nothing like that... Just normal conversation!!!!:whacked: :whacked:

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Nope, nothing like that... Just normal conversation!!!!:whacked: :whacked:

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ya... me either ....




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There is an upside - like Jack said -
REAL bullet holes rather than those stick-on imitations.

I admire the ambition but . . .

I think the best use for that rig has already happened, take some artsy pictures of it and sell them at the next swap meet. Be sure to use black & white film!

I agree with others, better pass on this one. As others have siad find a running or near running car that does not require too much body work. Mechanical work is way easier to learn, and finding someone willing to work on restoration/custom body work when you realize you don't know how to do it yourself is very difficult these days. Not to mention very expensive. Figure $75 per hour shop rate for hundreds or hours. Plus materials.

Pat