Stolen from Seattle Roadster Show...

Hi All, it's been awhile!

I went to the Seattle Roadster Show last weekend and Patsy Haggerty from NW Classic Auto Mall told me about this beautiful '36 Ford that was stolen:mad:

They were enroute to Seattle and the car was in a trailer hooked up to their truck outside the hotel they were staying in. During the night someone stole the whole package! The police found the truck later but no sign of the trailer or the '36 inside. So, I'm posting this on their behalf just in case someone sees or hears something about it.

Greg


$ 250000.00


Ad#: 10059 - 1936 Ford 2 door STOLEN!!


This Gorgeous Flamed street rod
was stolen,
from Seattle, Washington
on its way to the
Seattle Roadster Show
Wednesday, February 28, 2007.
If you spot it, please contact:
Larry & Debbie Kline
(707)452-0216
E-mail:
ljkdgk@earthlink.net
Vacaville, California

Wow, what a loss! Sure hope they get it back.
Larry M.

Made it a sticky at the top of the forum.

Makes me sick to think it is already in a container and headed overseas.

Bill S.

kinda makes you want to find the skum who did it and kick their ... you know

Man what a shame. Hope your friend has luck finding it but like Bill says, it's probably already oversea's.

either that or they are cuttin it up , that is my worst fear going over night somewhere to a show , i have an enclosed trailer but know im thinking about a way to kill the electric to my truck so it cant be driven ....

That sucks, hopefully they will find it

That sucks!! I hope they get lucky and get it back in good shape.

That business of folks having their trucks and trailers swiped from hotel parking lots is getting to be a real problem. It happens all the time here in Las Vegas; the LV Metro PD just busted one bunch that they caught by parking a decoy U-Haul and trailer in one of the strip hotel parking lots - found six or so big storage units stuffed with stolen property. Some of the stuff was peoples whole households; they had stopped for a little excitement in "Vegas, baby!", on their way to where ever, and wound up losing - big time.

I'd sure hope they get it back, but like Bill said its probably already on a containership:CRY: . These guys don't take them and wonder what to do. They know there profesion such as it is.:(

Makes you want to hide a bomb in your own car just to get the sob's who do things like this. Might be a terrible waste of time and materials, but a real satisfaction knowing the thief got their just rewards.

im gonna put this in mine , she is loyal and will bite

That would just break my heart.... You can recover the cost but how do you recover the years it took?
Makes me rethink my show schedule.

Dogtag

Lojak!

Nuff said!

Pat

Lojak brings up an interesting subject. Have any of you used, or are using one on your rod itself? I know the concept, but how expensive is it, can you install it yourself or do they have to do it? How is coverage, are they everywhere, or just major metropolitan areas? How big is the unit?

Don

I've been looking for an enclosed trailer to tow my '23 in when we travel in the motor home to car shows and other places. I think it would be safer than an open bed trailer. I have an alarm on the motorhome and would also have it for the trailer. I just can't imagin how they felt walking outside and seeing their rig gone. It sure serves as a wake up call for everybody towing or driving our cars just how easy they can disappear in the night.
Larry M.

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Originally Posted by Itoldyouso

Lojak brings up an interesting subject. Have any of you used, or are using one on your rod itself? I know the concept, but how expensive is it, can you install it yourself or do they have to do it? How is coverage, are they everywhere, or just major metropolitan areas? How big is the unit?

Don

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Don,

I don't have one on any of my cars; but, I can answer a couple of these from the research I have done on them in the past...they are about $700.00 if I remember correctly, and about the size of a deck of cards. Unfortunately, they have to install it. They don't offer a do-it-yourself option as I recall.

As for coverage, I don't remember that one.

Cheers,
Dutch

"......it is already in a container and headed overseas......."

Kind of my thoughts on it's fate. Don't know whether it's just the information age and we hear about it more or if the problem is growing. It used to be that I didn't worry too much about my cars they were so distinctive that they would stick out like a sore thumb. Anymore with the overseas market and prices some of the parts go for I do get concerned.

It's funny, I've spent the last couple of weekends building the security system for my 57 Plymouth getting it ready to go to Tulsa. Basically a few tricks that would make it a bit harder to steal, but a determined thief could still probably get it. Big one this weekend is the inside hood lock to keep someone from opening the hood from the outside.

I think generally the guys who are stealing cars of this calibre are pro's, and they have targeted this car specifically, and have a plan. Could be some drugged up idiot who just needs the next fix, but I don't think so.

Here in SW Florida at least 5 Marinas and Marine Dealers have been hit big time, like $ 250,000.00 to $ 500,000.00 each, and the guys who did it are real pros. They come in over the weekend, disable some pretty sophisticated alarm systems, and steal boxes and boxes of brand new outboard motors.

In several of the robberies, they even disabled the back up alarms on the forklifts so that they wouldn't attract any attention as they used the forklifts to load their truck. In one robbery, they even took the time to sit down and make sandwiches out of the fridge and eat a meal while there. :eek: Then they went into the parts room and stole all of the parts needed to make only the engines they had stolen complete, like controls and gauges. Real pro job, and most people think they come in from Miami and take the stuff back and ship them in a container somewhere.

Sad part is, if a true pro wants to get your car, boat, or whatever, they will probably succeed.........all we can do is try to make it so hard for them that they run out of time or choose an easier target. I am putting a quick disconnect on my T steering column so that I can remove the steering wheel. Might look dumb standing in the checkout line at Publix with a steering wheel in my hand, but oh well. :D


Don

Lojack costs about $600-$700 installed by dealer. I know several people who have it on their daily drivers, but none on a streetrod although I am sure quite a few people do. Not something normally talked about. supposed to work well in all areas, but don't really know outside of major population centers. Probably similar to GPS- works well most places, but not all.

By the way you can also get Lojack for computers too. Every time the thief uses the computer to log on to the internet, Lojack software sends a signal to the Lojack company as to the location of the stolen computer, who inturn send a message to the local police. Pretty neat insurance for $50.

http://www.lojack.com/index.cfm

Explains all of the questions.

Pat

One thing about Lojack is you CAN NOT move it from one car to another.
It has to stay with the car it was issued for so if you sell the car it goes with it
When I sold a daily driver I tried to move the Lojack to my Rambler but they would not let me said I had to buy a new one for the Rambler
They (Lojack) claim that the Department of Justice will not let them move it from car to car........

MM64:cool:

Must construction site use a TattleTail wireless alarm system, they have loop protector you run thru holes and make a complete loop. You have to cut or undo the loop to move the equipment, sets off the alarm. They have the rattle that is a wireless mercury switch that goes off if moved 6 degree. Wireless motion sensor all celluar.

That's probably because it is associated with the VIN, when the VIN is reported stolen that automatically activates the Lojak. If you moved it from one car to another that would create an administrative burden on who ever provides that relationship and would have to update the record, probably DoJ. I'm sure that Lojak has to pay the DoJ and I bet the contract states its a one time deal. I've heard that something similar to Lojak is available for computers too. Cost is supposed to be about $50.

Pat

This thread got me thinking so much about this that I sold my 24 foot trailer and
went out and bought a 48 foot with living quarters.
I trailer to all of the shows more than 100 miles away so that's about half the shows during the summer. I've been staying in motels and that means I must have been lucky.
Now if some scum sucking thief wants my baby, they gotta get past me and my .454
Just goes to show it doesn't pay to own anything nice.
Thanks for the heads up....

DT

I've passed this on to a few other sites, good luck on the recovery, I hate thieves. :mad:

Two years ago I had two very high $$ custom built bikes at a trade show in Vegas. Now the labor unions are very strong in Vegas and you cannot move anything yourself, the union guys move it all. At the end of the show it is all very hectic as everyone is clamoring to get out of there and someone with a trailer pulled up to the loading dock, and told one of the union riggers to go over to a certain booth and bring a ceratin bike to that trailer.
The rigger did not think anything of it, and went over and started rolling the bike over to the dock. One of the union foremen (who I had met at the start of the show and put in charge of the bikes, no one but him could touch or move the bikes) saw this and stopped him, asking him where he was going with the bike.
So the bike was saved, but by the time we got over to the dock the dude with the trailer was gone. The thief tried to steal the bike right out of the show. Can you believe it?
I was told this kind of thing happens all the time. Needless to say I was furious and rode each bike out of the show over to my trailer. So now when I display bikes, a disc lock goes on each bike, and only I have the key.

Another thing I do, as I trailer high dollar vehicles all the time, I do not display any kind of signage that says what is inside the trailer. having something that says "Hot rod or 32 chevy parking only" or HD stickers is just telling thieves that they should steal this. For all they know, the trailer could be full of household junk. There is no clue that something valuable is in the trailer.
I am also very careful of where I park overnight. Well lit parking areas, close to the door of the hotel, within sight of my room or the front desk. I'll pay extra to stay at a place that meets those requirements.
And my truck is alarmed, parked near my room, so if it goes off, I will hear it. On the way home from NYC last month, I pulled through 4 motels before I found one that had what I needed.
Even if I have a big 32 ft trailer, the rules are the same. One year we had to stay in a place in a bad section of a city, and I pretty much spent the night watching the truck and trailer.
And while on the road, I also try to stay in small towns, away from cities, less crime. if you are staying in a small town there is less chance of professional gangs that look for this sort of thing.
Even at events, I get there a day early, so I can park the truck and trailer, within sight of my room.

Years ago, a certain bike builder went through the same deal, with truck and trailer and bikes being stolen. he had to find a local criminal, who got him in touch the group that stole the bikes and he was able to buy the bikes back. And it happened in a port city. So most likely the bikes were going overseas.

There was an all steel, original 1933 Ford Sedan delivery stolen from a hotel, during the Syracuse nationals this year. right down the road from the fairgrounds.

I've only seen one place where you can get Lojack, and it is through your Ford dealership. I have heard that unless your rod is in a bunker undergroud with about six feet of concrete all around, they will find it. I bet there is more info in line about it.

Here on the Right Coast, getting Lojack does not seem to be a problem. Most dealers handled it and install it and even some specialty shops. I know several people who have had installed on their Honda's and Beemers. If you live and/or drive in an area where car theft maybe a worry, then the price is probably right. I don't have it on any of my cars.. yet. Then again I don't drive what most theives want anyway.:LOL:

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I've only seen one place where you can get Lojack, and it is through your Ford dealership. I have heard that unless your rod is in a bunker undergroud with about six feet of concrete all around, they will find it. I bet there is more info in line about it.

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.....Lojack comes to your house to install it.... just call 'em... :)

the alarm is a great way to go, I was told by a company that worked on our trailer (mobile health unit here where I work) that they have one that if the unit is opened while it is on it will send an alert within I think 15seconds. to my cell phone, police, wherever. meaning if it were outside my hotel they'd have to be pretty quick.

I have lojak on my wives car, my understanding from the dealer was that their, lojak, authorized person has to install it, without anybody watching, so it is in a hidden spot on the car. I don't know how they would do a custom where the person knows every inch of it.

I too would like to have a bomb installed, like in the james bond movie, if I can't have it then nobody should.

Red

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.....Lojack comes to your house to install it.... just call 'em... :)

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Well thats good to hear, BUT even if I wanted one or could afford one there isn't a dealer within 100 miles of St Louis, Mo. hell there isn't even one within 100 miles of Kansas City.... ooooo well...

2M2C, if there isnt a dealer, then there probably isnt coverage in Missouri...if you go to the Lojack coverage web page, Missouri is not listed. Lojack installs the tracking equiipment in selected police cars...you can tell one by the distinctive antenna array. Since the equipment is costly, they have to have some installed base to justify the equipment...but you'd think that St Louis/St Charles/
Granite City would have just a few customers.... If the car gets outside of the tracking antenna area, it's gone (there are portable trackers but that's another story). There are several other factors that can limit the effectiveness of the system that are RF stuff. The trick is, you have to realize that your car is gone before it gets out of the antenna range.... that's why they now offer the early alert option. Otherwise, if they nab your car in San Diego, it can be across the border before you wake up.

mike in tucson

Lo-jack is difficult to locate for the local P.D.'s. They have to triangulated the signal and if the vehicle is moving, it makes it more difficult. Also, in the old days, Lo-jack could only be activated after the car was entered into the Stolen Vehicle System (SVS). Also, tall buildings or hilly terrain effects Lo-jack.

Teletrak was a better but more expensive system. It is a monthly expense, about $50. Using GPS, they can track your car. Used on commerical big rigs all the time.

Another system thats been out awhile was designed for tracking your kids. AllTrack (or something like that) allows you to use a laptop to find your kids or property. However, you are limited in how many times you can use the system. You pay yearly. Use to be like $125 for 12 uses. Size of an Ipod, you can hide anywhere.

Going on a Harley trip to Alaska this summer. Going to buy a disc brake lock to go with the steering column lock. At best just a deterant, but we'll also has some leagal hand guns for breakdown protection on the Alaska Highway! Nothing like breaking down in the middle of nowhere when your friendly bear shows up!:D

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Going on a Harley trip to Alaska this summer. Going to buy a disc brake lock to go with the steering column lock. At best just a deterant, but we'll also has some leagal hand guns for breakdown protection on the Alaska Highway! Nothing like breaking down in the middle of nowhere when your friendly bear shows up!:D

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Your M/C dealer should just "give you" a free disk lock for all of the extra parts he will sell to you. I will gaurantee that sooner or later your going to forget to remove it before you ride away. You can make about three quarter's of a forward wheel rotation (about 8 to 10 feet) before the disk lock contacts the brake caliper and bends the rotor. If your lucky you will get your foot down before you drop the bike. We see this problem at least twice a month in our shop.

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Lo-jack is difficult to locate for the local P.D.'s. They have to triangulated the signal and if the vehicle is moving, it makes it more difficult. Also, in the old days, Lo-jack could only be activated after the car was entered into the Stolen Vehicle System (SVS). Also, tall buildings or hilly terrain effects Lo-jack.

Teletrak was a better but more expensive system. It is a monthly expense, about $50. Using GPS, they can track your car. Used on commerical big rigs all the time.

Another system thats been out awhile was designed for tracking your kids. AllTrack (or something like that) allows you to use a laptop to find your kids or property. However, you are limited in how many times you can use the system. You pay yearly. Use to be like $125 for 12 uses. Size of an Ipod, you can hide anywhere.

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Lo-Jack is not hard for the Police Departments to locate, but they need to be set up with the tracking equipment in the patrol cars. Since this is a big start-up expense that is why they only offer to sell it in the selected major cities where they can maintain the quality (high recovery rate) of the system.

LoJack is radio based and works around buildings when activated. Also in covered parking garages and enclosed car trailers. The GPS based systems are good for tracking semi trucks and trailers across the country, but if they put your stolen GPS equipped car inside a trailer your screwed.

They each have their strong and weak points.

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Your M/C dealer should just "give you" a free disk lock for all of the extra parts he will sell to you. I will gaurantee that sooner or later your going to forget to remove it before you ride away. You can make about three quarter's of a forward wheel rotation (about 8 to 10 feet) before the disk lock contacts the brake caliper and bends the rotor. If your lucky you will get your foot down before you drop the bike. We see this problem at least twice a month in our shop.

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John
Most of my friends and I have not bought them for this very reason, but now they make a orange cable that connects the lock with your handlebars. It's bright orange! It was made to remind you to take the lock off! Nothing is perfect, but some things help make you feel a little safer a long way from home!

That's sad to hear---yes the car can be replaced but the time spent on the build can never be.

My belief is that most of these type of thefts, Rods, muscle cars, hi-end sportcars, custom bikes etc. are done by pros and not the local "bad boys"

Does make a point though of having your insurance cover replacement value