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Originally Posted by daveS53

Oops, I goofed. I made a better picture with a proper text to go with it. The allowable deflection from a straight line, or 180 degrees, is only 30. That makes the maximum angle 150 degrees, not 120. The card on the right is just like the one that the builder is holding and it's much too steep to work properly. You'd need a double u-joint for that angle.

Well Dave, you need another edit because it's the card on the LEFT that matches with the one in the photo, and all of the cards are a bit off because Borgeson says the maximum angle is 35 degrees, not 30, but what's five degrees between friends....

Also, for what it's worth, according to the guy in customer service at Borgeson, as long as you install the steering universals at or less than the maximum 35 degrees (70 degrees for a double) there is no concern with added friction in turning or return to center. Borgeson has no concern with an installation that has every u-joint at 35 degrees or less. As I said earlier, I'm not concerned at all with the angle of my center joint, and I have no concerns with it operating as intended at nominal 33 degrees.

Originally Posted by rspears

Well Dave, you need another edit because it's the card on the LEFT that matches with the one in the photo, and all of the cards are a bit off because Borgeson says the maximum angle is 35 degrees, not 30,

Roger, If I remember correctly along about 1999-2000 Borgeson switched their u-joints slightly so they can be run at 35 degrees, they use to be 30 degrees as my '32 has the old style 30 degree joints and my 37 has the new style joints. The old style used a stainless button head screw to retain the shafts and now they are staked (I believe that's correct and not vice versa) they did this when Flaming Rivers came out and dropped the cost quite a bit, I remember as they came out right after I paid the higher costs for less angle joints, kind like my luck runs most of the time! Old literature has the old angle listed and not the new I think. Best of luck and keep up the good work! Matthyj

Originally Posted by rspears

Well Dave, you need another edit because it's the card on the LEFT that matches with the one in the photo, and all of the cards are a bit off because Borgeson says the maximum angle is 35 degrees, not 30,

Roger, If I remember correctly along about 1999-2000 Borgeson switched their u-joints slightly so they can be run at 35 degrees, they use to be 30 degrees as my '32 has the old style 30 degree joints and my 37 has the new style joints. The old style used a stainless button head screw to retain the shafts and now they are staked (I believe that's correct and not vice versa) they did this when Flaming Rivers came out and dropped the cost quite a bit, I remember as they came out right after I paid the higher costs for less angle joints, kind like my luck runs most of the time! Old literature has the old angle listed and not the new I think. Best of luck and keep up the good work! Matthyj

Angles can be deceiving when viewed small, a 30° angle projected out can be steeper than you thing it is (driving a mountain road will prove that). My point is simply taken the distance from the steering wheel to the joint, you'll quickly see any steeper angle and the steering wheel could be out of the roof line.
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