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Originally Posted by 406Rich

Some number of years ago, I was watching an older gent paint a black truck, it was single stage paint, he had gotten a run in the side, he put his spray gun down, grabbed a eight inch strip of two inch wide masking tape off the roll, using two hands form sort of a bow in front of him and stuck right to the run, pulled it back and it had a perfect id on the tape of the run, he waited about five minutes and hit that spot again with the spray gun and couldn`t tell where the run had been...

yep we did that if you put a run in some things or i use this more for plucking junk out . i had sewing needles that i used to hook junk out of paint or tweezers. many times i run the paint off the panel if on a lower .wash boy i was teaching him how to paint did this one time to show him what to do. i was painting a black car 30 year ago with my buddy we were shoooting cars together . his sisters car black single stage was teaching him how to paint in a dark shop he was having fun with me hanged a small run off the sports side mirror he kept on me about that damn drip .so he was painting in gym shorts ? so i looked at him said you know whats really funny ?no i do not.... so i painted to side of has leg black enamel

Do those tricks for pulling a run, or plucking things off the surface work just as good for clear? I'd think the answer is yes, because clear coat is just single stage paint without any pigment in it. I may need to add a pair of tweezers & a big needle to my paint booth tools!

Originally Posted by rspears

Do those tricks for pulling a run, or plucking things off the surface work just as good for clear? I'd think the answer is yes, because clear coat is just single stage paint without any pigment in it. I may need to add a pair of tweezers & a big needle to my paint booth tools!

many times its just tape as it allways around the paint shop close by i used it folded over like a loop to scoop junk out

OK, I'm becoming convinced that my experience painting is JINXED!! My one splash apron was so bad I decided to sand it down and start over. Luckily I called my paint guy, and he told me that with the amount of material on there I needed to get all the clear off, and suggested working it down with thinner. Took a bit, but I finally got it down to base & primer again. I decided since I was going to be shooting from scratch, primer, base & clear, I might as well add the dash to the job so I pulled all the gauges and AC vents and got it ready for primer. Shot two coats of epoxy on both pieces, plus a couple of radiator brace brackets, and let them cure over night. This morning I got out there early and shot the base black & candy blue. Let that cure an hour, and got ready for clear. Shot the first coat, left to let it flash for ten or fifteen minutes and came back for the second coat. Did the brackets, then the dash, then finished with the splash apron. Everything looking great, good shine, no sags, no runs, and about that time I see a little tan worm, maybe 1/2" long & 1/16" around, inching up the bottom edge of the dash, right on the passenger corner!! A stinkin' WORM!! Where did a stinkin' WORM come from!! By the time I turned, grabbed an awl nearby, and got back he was on the front corner, heading up!! I hooked him & flipped him to the floor, staring in dismay at the worm trail in the wet clear I grabbed the gun and gave it a quick hit, but then I remembered Rich's post, where he mentioned the old guy waiting five minutes, hitting it again and the run disappearing. Sooooo, I stood there counting seconds, watching the clock and at five minutes hit that corner a couple of shots. After about three or four minutes the worm trail was all but gone!! Easily sandable during cut & buff.

Rich, thanks big time for sharing that old story. It added an arrow to the quiver, and helped me save the dash spray job without piling on more clear while it was too wet!!

You poor beggar!

A worm!

Who would've believed it?

Ya know, I'm more than sure there's a fella sitting around looking over people's shoulders with a handful of spanners to throw in the works!
(Or in your case a worm!)

Originally Posted by johnboy

You poor beggar!

A worm!

Who would've believed it?

Ya know, I'm more than sure there's a fella sitting around looking over people's shoulders with a handful of spanners to throw in the works!
(Or in your case a worm!)

i do every Pro painter knows very well you have to offer up some thing to the paint gods. nailing down one more coat is 101 in painting or what is also that we called flooding the the panle with another coat if that fails washing it all off with thinner if it pulls the primer then next setup is to throw the gun or go to the bar or both.. i never beat on my guns but i seen it .. worms no.... but i had many spiders or the years small flying things to bugs the size of a 747 that love to do the death march 1/2 the way threw a top panle for the world to see hood or deck lid then lay down in the clear . most the time a moth with them chalky white wings that stick down in the clear and it.s always a dark paint job

In the process of putting the car back together I'm trying to solve known "issues" as I can. One thing I was unhappy with was that I had mounted the Edelbrock ECU to the back side of the firewall with a couple of strips of industrial velcro tape. It worked "OK", but several times I had found the ECU loose, likely due to the "pull" of the two big wire bundles. One of the beauties of working with a fiberglass body is that one can use bondo or construction adhesive as "glue" for most any material to install a base. Bondo sets quick and seems to be more permanent in my experience. I had envisioned a steel plate with a couple of tapped holes and a metal strap over the ECU, but one thing led to another and I ended up in the wood shop area with some old walnut panels that are at least 100 years old. The area is pretty tight, but I ended up with a base with a top overhang about 1/2" taller than the box, and a bottom support about 1/2" shorter with a 1/4x20 threaded insert inside. The top overhang has a rabbeted groove that the cover slips into, and then pinches the ECU with a polished socket head bolt. Left the bottom edge "natural" for grins. It's functional, and if anyone sticks their head under the dash the look's not too shabby for a quick banged together contraption

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That's a nice piece of wood! Now you can say you have a '33 Woody.

Very creative, nice job-you give a new meaning to "it gives me wood"-

I have been working in Wood for years, and have thought about how to integrate it in my build-with my "theme" I can't think of how to do it, but it fits well in you Car-looks good!

Roger---we used velcro to fasten lots of stuff on the Indy cars back in the 80s------
And the ceilings are held up with velcro on Boeings

was it the velcro came apart or the tape pulled off the fiberglass or module????and can you do a pic of the type velcro you used?????Maybe then I'll start a thread

Originally Posted by jerry clayton

Roger---we used velcro to fasten lots of stuff on the Indy cars back in the 80s------
And the ceilings are held up with velcro on Boeings

was it the velcro came apart or the tape pulled off the fiberglass or module????and can you do a pic of the type velcro you used?????Maybe then I'll start a thread

Jerry,
I no longer have the package - got down to a foot remaining and tossed the box but from the backing it is Velcro Brand, and is their "Industrial Strength" product purchased in a bulk package from Lowe's, 1.875" wide and I think 5 feet long or more, link Industrial Strength VELCRO® Brand Tape, Coins, and Strips I now see from their website that they also have "Extreme Industrial", as well as "Low Profile Industrial" which might be cool.

I painted my fiberglass (and wood) surface(s) with fiberglass resin to provide a smooth surface, then attached the loop side with the adhesive backing on the tape. On this module the velcro remained attached to both surfaces, but the module would come loose (Velcro released) occasionally.

Starting a new thread for a "How To" on Velcro would be a great idea, but with all respect I'm not asking for that input here. The purpose of my post was to show the woodwork option, not to discuss why my Velcro didn't hold.

Well, two steps forward but then again, one big step backwards today. I re-sanded the doors & quarters this morning to get rid of a bit of funky surface reflection and polished them out again. As I cleaned things up I kept finding little spots that were kind of dull, so I attacked them with the foam polishing pad, too. Now a couple of days back I was really disheartened as I looked at the hood after it had been out in the sunshine for an hour or so - a bunch of little shallow low spots reflecting light every which way. I was about ready to take a long block to it to mark the lows but waited until morning and to my surprise the hood was perfectly flat!! Then after a few minutes in the hot sun I could see the lows forming. Seems that the inner panel, which has two wide ribs side to side, and the upper, exterior panel are pulling on each other as it heats in the sun, soooo I decided there's nothing I can do about it and I finished polishing it out. Now today, as I got all the interior back in and buttoned everything up I look at the hood and see a pair of ugly bubbles raised up near the back of the hood!! This is in the area where I ground down past the gel coat to glass in the extension in the back, filling the gap to the cowl, and after the heat I can clearly see that line where new glass meets old. Not sure what's off-gassing, but it looks like I'm going to be re-doing the hood sooner as opposed to later.... Not a happy camper today.

Here's a couple of shots after the cleanup.

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But it's such a Damn Beautiful car!

I guess unless we're Chip Foose, we all become disheartened with our own work. I still have lots of "should haves" every day. You did a lot of work and ended up with a head-turner ride, Roger. Be proud of all you've accomplished. (BTW, black cars belong in the shade anyhow. )

Ah, yes, Roger, "perfection" is a narrow and most challenging road to travel. My eyes & heart always want to go there but it seems my hands often make me take detours....

I guess the key is to find joy in the journey because even if you do make it perfect, somebody or something is going to come along and put a flaw in it!

The car definitely looks SWEET and we've all learned a lot and appreciated taking the trip with you! Thanks for the virtual ride now come and take us for a real one.....

That thing looks like it will run too fast for anybody to see any flaws in the paint anyway!