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11-26-2007, 05:11 PM
viking

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Here we go again. :LOL:
11-26-2007, 05:15 PM
Dave Severson

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Originally Posted by viking

Here we go again. :LOL:

Not again, still....

I don't really care what anyone runs for a combination of car, engine, and driveline..... Just an observation that the new technology offers both performance and economy.....Hard to get that with pushrods and a carb regardless of who's factory it came out of.....
11-26-2007, 05:51 PM
junkyardjeff

I have two or three in the shed and who would want a shinney one for a sbc since you cant see much of it with the waterpump on.

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Originally Posted by erik erikson

Have you ever priced a timing chain cover for a sbf?
11-26-2007, 07:11 PM
erik erikson

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Originally Posted by Dave Severson

Yup, about $80.00 brand new....Never had to replace one cuz it was leakin' like them cheap tin chebbie ones though!!!!!!!!!!!:LOL: :LOL: :LOL:

PS, scored me an Enderle Fuel injection type front cover off eBay the other day BRAND NEW for $29.00 delivered--wouldn't happen to have a cam drive fuel pump around, would ya??? Or maybe the Lehman water pump that goes with it??????:LOL: :LOL: :LOL:

Dave,the point I was trying to make is they cost more to buy.
The good heavy duty alu. ones are about $25.
11-26-2007, 07:13 PM
Dave Severson

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Originally Posted by erik erikson

Dave,the point I was trying to make is they cost more to buy.
The good heavy duty alu. ones are about $25.

Kewl, next time I need one I'll get it from you!!!!!

Now, about that Lehman water pump to go with my Enderle cover........
11-26-2007, 07:16 PM
erik erikson

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Originally Posted by junkyardjeff

I have two or three in the shed and who would want a shinney one for a sbc since you cant see much of it with the waterpump on.

You asked so I was trying to tell you.
On the engines I build I don't go to "the shed" and put a used timing chain cover on any engine.
Also if you want to run a sbf try using an older block 302 block.
They at least can take a .040 over bore.
The newer 5.0 blocks are nothing but a huge p.o.s.
11-26-2007, 07:20 PM
HemiTCoupe

I'll keep my 302 in my Mustang GT convert, I'll keep my 4.3 in my Blazer(till I move, then pull it, and put it in my wifes T Tudor Sedan, which had Buick V6), and I'll keep my 392 Hemi in my T Coupe, and you do what ever you want to your car, it's yours! I just gave my opinion, and where he could get some money for his motor! ;)

I have no car with a carb, I have injection on everything, except my Trike.

You two sound like a couple of ford guy's that got spanked by a chevy one time, and can't get over it! :D :D :D

Pat
11-26-2007, 07:22 PM
pat mccarthy

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Originally Posted by erik erikson

You asked so I was trying to tell you.
On the engines I build I don't go to "the shed" and put a used timing chain cover on any engine.
Also if you want to run a sbf try using an older block 302 block.
They at least can take a .040 over bore.
The newer 5.0 blocks are nothing but a huge p.o.s.

:D yep tough crowd erik :D there is now way you can build a ford cheaper then a small block and the chevy is made to fit in a chevy the ford is not it made to fit in the chevy:whacked: .but hey go get you nuts off :whacked:
11-26-2007, 07:49 PM
Dave Severson

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Originally Posted by pat mccarthy

:D yep tough crowd erik :D there is now way you can build a ford cheaper then a small block and the chevy is made to fit in a chevy the ford is not it made to fit in the chevy:whacked: .but hey go get you nuts off :whacked:

Yup, true. But that's waaaaaay too easy!!!!!!:LOL: :LOL: :LOL: :LOL:

Whatever swap anyone wants to do it doesn't have to be practical, easy, or cheap. Just has to be something they want to do!!!!!! I for one appreciate the unconventional set-ups. The dude who just posted the '40 Ford with the Nailhead in it is an example... Could have been like the majority and bought the bolt on goodies and put in a 350/350---but instead he went with a nailhead and wound up with a unique Hot Rod.... Heck, just do something different once in awhile!!!!
11-26-2007, 08:01 PM
pat mccarthy

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Originally Posted by Dave Severson

Yup, true. But that's waaaaaay too easy!!!!!!:LOL: :LOL: :LOL: :LOL:

Whatever swap anyone wants to do it doesn't have to be practical, easy, or cheap. Just has to be something they want to do!!!!!! I for one appreciate the unconventional set-ups. The dude who just posted the '40 Ford with the Nailhead in it is an example... Could have been like the majority and bought the bolt on goodies and put in a 350/350---but instead he went with a nailhead and wound up with a unique Hot Rod.... Heck, just do something different once in awhile!!!!

well the guy did not say how much it cost to put that nail in runing shap? i have good grasp on the price$$$ i am doing one now. and yes it is nice not to have the same as every one but the cost of the build can be way over some guys budget :HMMM: .that is why you see so many chevys and they run good and easy to get parts. so if you have to hate this is good place to start:D
11-26-2007, 08:10 PM
Dave Severson

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Originally Posted by pat mccarthy

well the guy did not say how much it cost to put that nail in runing shap? i have good grasp on the price$$$ i am doing one now. and yes it is nice not to have the same as every one but the cost of the build can be way over some guys budget :HMMM: .that is why you see so many chevys and they run good and easy to get parts. so if you have to hate this is good place to start:D

I don't hate seeing sbc's in everything, it just bores me to tears is all!!!! If price and cost were the only consideration, none of us would be doing this stuff anyway!!!!! Besides, how can a guy with a Donovan complain about the price of a sbf???????????:LOL: :LOL: :LOL: :LOL: :LOL:
11-26-2007, 08:16 PM
pat mccarthy

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Originally Posted by Dave Severson

I don't hate seeing sbc's in everything, it just bores me to tears is all!!!! If price and cost were the only consideration, none of us would be doing this stuff anyway!!!!! Besides, how can a guy with a Donovan complain about the price of a sbf???????????:LOL: :LOL: :LOL: :LOL: :LOL:

not me i do not need a ford engine. i know i been different for a long time:whacked: buy me a beer some time and i will tell you how much i have in that engine:D not as much as one would think. and this is my way to be different i had the biggest engine in town always**)
11-26-2007, 08:22 PM
Dave Severson

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Originally Posted by pat mccarthy

not me i do not need a ford engine. i know i been different for a long time:whacked: buy me a beer some time and i will tell you how much i have in that engine:D not as much as one would think. and this is my way to be different i had the biggest engine in town always**)

Gonna do that sometime, Pat. Hopefully we can all get together next summer-----I know, I said that last summer-----but I still want to head up your way with Pro Z, and maybe swing through DesMoines and pick up Eric, then take in that Woodward Cruise!!!!! then I'll buy ya a beer!!!!!:LOL: :LOL: :LOL: :LOL:
11-26-2007, 08:23 PM
pat mccarthy

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Originally Posted by Dave Severson

Gonna do that sometime, Pat. Hopefully we can all get together next summer-----I know, I said that last summer-----but I still want to head up your way with Pro Z, and maybe swing through DesMoines and pick up Eric, then take in that Woodward Cruise!!!!! then I'll buy ya a beer!!!!!:LOL: :LOL: :LOL: :LOL:

that would be neat i :D
11-27-2007, 12:46 AM
217-z

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Originally Posted by Dave Severson

and with the 4.6 and 5.4 OHC and DOHC engines putting an ez 300 or more horse to the ground with minimal mods, chebbie had better wake up and come up with a modern replacement for the old sbc or they're gonna be really lagging behind in popularity and performance in the years to come......

**) Its called the all mighty lsx!**) Still striking fear in the eyes of its on lookers..:eek:
11-27-2007, 06:16 AM
erik erikson

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Originally Posted by pat mccarthy

:D yep tough crowd erik :D there is now way you can build a ford cheaper then a small block and the chevy is made to fit in a chevy the ford is not it made to fit in the chevy:whacked: .but hey go get you nuts off :whacked:

If you think the Ford guys are tough you should try all the guys that run the 6-cylinder Jimmy.
I try and try to explain to them that GMC is part of General Motors but I might as well be speaking Chineese.:LOL:
11-27-2007, 06:19 AM
erik erikson

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Originally Posted by Dave Severson

Gonna do that sometime, Pat. Hopefully we can all get together next summer-----I know, I said that last summer-----but I still want to head up your way with Pro Z, and maybe swing through DesMoines and pick up Eric, then take in that Woodward Cruise!!!!! then I'll buy ya a beer!!!!!:LOL: :LOL: :LOL: :LOL:

Dave,that would be a great idea.
Maybe a bunch of us could meet in the Chicago area this summer.
11-27-2007, 08:22 AM
Dave Severson

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Originally Posted by erik erikson

Dave,that would be a great idea.
Maybe a bunch of us could meet in the Chicago area this summer.

Hmmm... The Nats at Joliet or the Woodward Cruise,,,,,,decisions, decisions.....:LOL: :LOL: :LOL: :LOL:
11-27-2007, 12:21 PM
tango

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Originally Posted by erik erikson

Dave,that would be a great idea.
Maybe a bunch of us could meet in the Chicago area this summer.

If you guys come to Chicago . I will show you how a Chicago SB Chevy rages on the street ! :cool:
11-27-2007, 03:25 PM
erik erikson

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Originally Posted by Dave Severson

Hmmm... The Nats at Joliet or the Woodward Cruise,,,,,,decisions, decisions.....:LOL: :LOL: :LOL: :LOL:

Dave,either one sounds great.
11-28-2007, 05:43 PM
HemiTCoupe

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Originally Posted by Dave Severson

The price of building a small block Ford used to be an issue, but that's not it at all anymore....and with the 4.6 and 5.4 OHC and DOHC engines putting an ez 300 or more horse to the ground with minimal mods, chebbie had better wake up and come up with a modern replacement for the old sbc or they're gonna be really lagging behind in popularity and performance in the years to come..... Pushrods and carbs are eventually going to be dinosaurs and Ford definitely has a BIG head start on the new technologies and their availability to the average Hot Rodder at an affordable price.....Not putting the chebbies down, just an observation on what I see happening.

Can you say LS1, LSX, & Z06 ?

I just thought you'd like to see what Ford guys think about a LS1 (a 346 not a 350) in a Mustang! **) :p http://www.mustangforums.com/m_1896216/tm.htm

Pat
11-28-2007, 05:57 PM
erik erikson

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Originally Posted by HemiTCoupe

Can you say LS1, LSX, & Z06 ?

I just thought you'd like to see what Ford guys think about a LS1 (a 346 not a 350) in a Mustang! **) :p http://www.mustangforums.com/m_1896216/tm.htm

Pat

Yes,it reminded me a lot of the Corral forum where everyone and his brother have 331/347 with a cam much like the Ford "B" cam and they are still using the stock Ford 5.0 block and making 525+hp.L.O.L:LOL: :whacked:
11-28-2007, 06:06 PM
pat mccarthy

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Originally Posted by HemiTCoupe

Can you say LS1, LSX, & Z06 ?

I just thought you'd like to see what Ford guys think about a LS1 (a 346 not a 350) in a Mustang! **) :p http://www.mustangforums.com/m_1896216/tm.htm

Pat

i was going to tell dave ls1 :3dSMILE: but i forgot**) i did work on a ZO6 and re cam soild roller head work T@D rockers and headers the car had some other things done:D but anyways it did not do much at 1000 rpm would hardly stay running must have been a bad cam:D but if you got in to it hard if would go like hell and blow the cup race tires off the car. the car was a road race car but would take out alot of street/ strip cars **)
11-29-2007, 08:46 PM
shortyforty

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I'm always for swapping anything into anything just to be different.

But this summer I saw a Kit Cobra at cruise night which seems to be the latest yuppi hot rod around here. I wasn't going to look at it but went over anyway. Well it had a sbc in it and that made me want to puke.

here's one from the web. Don't know if it was real or photoshopped.

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Here's one I saw at a show a couple years ago that had a sbf in it
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11-29-2007, 08:54 PM
Dave Severson

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Originally Posted by HemiTCoupe

Can you say LS1, LSX, & Z06 ?

I just thought you'd like to see what Ford guys think about a LS1 (a 346 not a 350) in a Mustang! **) :p http://www.mustangforums.com/m_1896216/tm.htm

Pat

:LOL: :LOL: :LOL: :LOL: So, maybe you thought a Mustang forum would be in favor of swapping a chebbie engine into a Fox body????:LOL: :LOL: :LOL: :LOL:
11-30-2007, 01:17 AM
bluestang67

Noah will be building a ARK soon .
11-30-2007, 07:12 AM
erik erikson

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Originally Posted by bluestang67

Noah will be building a ARK soon .

Well,I don't think it has gotten that bad.
I did see a early 90's Honda Accord that someone had but a sbc in this past summer.:3dSMILE:
11-30-2007, 04:33 PM
217-z

Specs: 240/244 608/598 112

Vehicle Mods
2002 Ws6
SLP Lid (K&N)
SLP FFRA
Gran MAS
BW ported TB
ASP Pulley
SSauto 1 3/4 headers
QTP Ypipe
Flowmaster CB
4.10 gear (8.8 rear)
42lb inj

All numbers SAE corrected. Uncorrected were 459/430

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11-30-2007, 08:35 PM
HemiTCoupe

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Originally Posted by Dave Severson

:LOL: :LOL: :LOL: :LOL: So, maybe you thought a Mustang forum would be in favor of swapping a chebbie engine into a Fox body????:LOL: :LOL: :LOL: :LOL:

:confused: I don't see where I said anything, about it being for or against it! :HMMM:

Pat
12-01-2007, 02:51 AM
bluestang67

Hemi i hope to never see a anything other then a Ford in a stang . Its a machine with its own distiction . As a hot rod site its approved to make the mods or install what you have in parts in your garage , but even with that i'm installing a Ford in a Ford . To me a 50's or newer should be of it's brand name with no mods . In 30 years then whats available will be open court for the times.
12-01-2007, 03:44 AM
gassersrule_196

there was a guy at the track this summer took a fox body put a sbc in it, used s-10 headers ran them forward and had reducer pipes in front of the front wheels under the front bumper said that way he didnt have to worry about firewall clearance, sure was interesting!
12-01-2007, 09:22 AM
tango

I had a 1969 GTO that had a 400 360HP . Well one night I threw a rod . And this was my only car so . I did some looking around for a Pontiac engine . No luck but my brother had a wrecked 1970 Chevy in his yard ! That week end I parked the GTO next to his Chevy and switched every thing chevy to the GTO . I did not have to buy a thing I used the chevy headers mounts frame tabs trans drive shaft hoses . That Chevy engine was a 350 250HP . It ran good and got me to work on monday . But it was way down on power from the Pontiac 400 . But still was a nice street car and ran high 14teens with the 355 Posi with much better MPG .
12-03-2007, 04:42 PM
gassersrule_196

you could always get the new <re-production> zl1 427 coming out what a beautiful motor
12-10-2009, 07:57 PM
hotrodstude

do it but go with an older 302 or a mustang gt engine.i'v been putting engines in chevys all my life with great results.my first was a 425 cid nailhead buick with 2x4's and a muncie 4-speed in a 56 chevy 210,even put a supercharged 289 studebaker v-8 in a 55 convert. so any thing is possible.presently working on a 55 sedan puiiung a 65 400 olds with b/w t-10 in it shold be a gas when i finish.
12-11-2009, 06:26 AM
nitrowarrior

"Do it?" Last post, 2yrs and 8 days ago. What's up with that?

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