ok guys sorry for all the confusion when i checked this post there were only a few replys the reply that FFR428 posted after SBC never showed up on my computer until today this is weird i checked this last night and there were only a few posts and now there are 2 pages of replys thats most of the reason for all the confusion bc i couldnt see all the replys haha this has been happening for a while on a couple of diffrent forums thhat i use it must be a problem with my computer anyway i think i ore than understand now thanks guys