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First off I was having problems seeing oil on my dipstick so I put a butt load in and now I have way to much oil. Around the same time I started seeing quite a bit of steam coming out of the breathers and have lost all oil pressure.
other than adding alot of oil the only things I have done is change spark plugs and play with the carb, fuel/air and idle.
Also, does anyone know of any good tools, write ups for carb tuning?? I have an edelbrock performer if that helps.
How much is a butt load?Quote:
Originally posted by nystreetscene
First off I was having problems seeing oil on my dipstick so I put a butt load in and now I have way to much oil. Around the same time I started seeing quite a bit of steam coming out of the breathers and have lost all oil pressure.
other than adding alot of oil the only things I have done is change spark plugs and play with the carb, fuel/air and idle.
Also, does anyone know of any good tools, write ups for carb tuning?? I have an edelbrock performer if that helps.
hmmm please do not tell us :HMMM: i had to say that. you need to get the butt load out .to much will just get beat out by the crank pull the pan plug out drain some out put plug back and check itQuote:
Originally posted by erik erikson
How much is a butt load?
Sounds to me as if you prolly blew a head gasket, or broke somethin' big time. :whacked: :CRY: **) Why'd ya' put a "butt load" of oil in it? A quart or two would do for checking.
So is a butt load 8 qts. in a 5 qt. system or is it 9 either way loose some oil.Quote:
Originally posted by pat mccarthy
hmmm please do not tell us :HMMM: i had to say that. you need to get the butt load out .to much will just get beat out by the crank pull the pan plug out drain some out put plug back and check it
Alrite, I drained the oil and have the propper amount now. THe engine starts up at just below 30 lbs of pressure for the oil. The oil pressure starts to drop as it warms up and eventually drops off to slightly above none.
I am getting steam or smoke out of the passenger side valve cover breather and a little chatter in the upper rpms on the same side.
Also I checked vacum and it is running at 15 when warm on idle.
that is about (2, 55 gallon barrels worth of stuff.)Quote:
Originally posted by erik erikson
How much is a butt load?
thats a lot of motor oil. :HMMM: :LOL:
A butt load like is about 3 quarts on top of about 1 quart to much to begin with.
Are u using a manual oil guage? If so sounds like u have major internal situation.
Quote:
Originally posted by nystreetscene
A butt load like is about 3 quarts on top of about 1 quart to much to begin with.
more than that.
1 butt equals:
2 hogsheads (this is probably the easiest to remember for social occasions) 476.961 liters
126 gallons
104.917 UK gallons
13.5347 bushels
0.131592 cords
11.6574 firkins
4032 gills
21504 ponys
4032 noggins
1008 pints
96768 teaspoons
12.0308 ephahs
1.58987x10^7 drops
10752 jiggers
16128 shots
629.504 wine bottles
630 fifths
one microbutt = 0.0968 teaspoons
If you did pop a head gasket look for (carmel color) in your oil or anti freeze.Quote:
Originally posted by Rrumbler
Sounds to me as if you prolly blew a head gasket, or broke somethin' big time. :whacked: :CRY: **) Why'd ya' put a "butt load" of oil in it? A quart or two would do for checking.
Where in the world do you find all this b.s.?Quote:
Originally posted by lt1s10
more than that.
1 butt equals:
2 hogsheads (this is probably the easiest to remember for social occasions) 476.961 liters
126 gallons
104.917 UK gallons
13.5347 bushels
0.131592 cords
11.6574 firkins
4032 gills
21504 ponys
4032 noggins
1008 pints
96768 teaspoons
12.0308 ephahs
1.58987x10^7 drops
10752 jiggers
16128 shots
629.504 wine bottles
630 fifths
one microbutt = 0.0968 teaspoons
"Originally posted by erik erikson
How much is a butt load?
Where in the world do you find all this b.s.?"
somethings you just know.
Answering B.S. ? for people that ask B.S. ? is the only reason I'm here. :rolleyes: :D
Awww man, I had a legit question, sure it may seem dumb for people who know what they are doing and apparently I could have done a better job describing the situation but the ragging really isnt helpfull.
Erik, my oil is milkshake free and from peering in the radiator filler the coolant is clean as well. I had some coolant leak out of the hose that hooks up to the thermostat housing and that was clean too. Should I pull the thermostat housing to double check??
sometimes a blown headgasket wont show up milky in oil right away, let the engine warm up to operating temp and watch both the guages and the engine to see if its leeking anything or trying to overheat.
the chattering could be the valves . have you abused this car?
if you had to add a butt load of oil to get it to read on the dipstick, makes me wonder why it was that low on oil that it took more than 2 quarts to fill it up. never let an engine get below 1qt of oil, you will starve the cam and valve components, and if this engine is a 1st gen small block chavy engine you could have also damaged the piston wristpins on numbers 3 and 4 cylinder. in my experiences with bad oiling on these engines the 3,4 cylinders are the first to start to rattle. but mostly the number 3.
pray and hope this isnt the case with you. or the engine will need a rebuild.
ever read the warning that is stamped on the dip stick?
I could get into trouble saying this buthere it goes.
chevy small blocks cant handle running low on oil as well a chrysler engine, or a ford engine they are prone to spin a bearing, that is chevy's "main" weakness. its oiling problems.
but thats ok I learned that the hard way also, in the beginning I had done the same as you.
and now im trying to get my wife into the habbit of checking the oil daily, so far she can pop the hood on her own. lol :HMMM:
The Chevy small block can't handle running low on oil as well as a Chrysler or a Ford engine?The Chevy is prone to spin bearings?The Chevy's main weakness is its oiling system?How did you come to all these conclusion's?Quote:
Originally posted by fordsfairlane
I could get into trouble saying this buthere it goes.
chevy small blocks cant handle running low on oil as well a chrysler engine, or a ford engine they are prone to spin a bearing, that is chevy's "main" weakness. its oiling problems.
but thats ok I learned that the hard way also, in the beginning I had done the same as you.
and now im trying to get my wife into the habbit of checking the oil daily, so far she can pop the hood on her own. lol :HMMM:
There isn't any engine that likes running low on oil. The chevy smallblock has a pretty darn good oiling system compared to many of the other engines out there.
I have never had this engine over 2500 RPM's myself. I just put the engine in the truck not to long ago and the truck hasnt seen the road yet. ive had the engine sitting in my garage for 2 years after buying it off a friend...
I have had some over heating problems latly due to lack of tightening hoses on the radiator I suppose this could have caused a blown head gasket? Now that I have the hoses tightened it still runs warm, around 210 or so and seems to struggle to keep from overheating.
because back when I used to chase after girls I would sometimes forget to check oil in my chevy. once I let the oil get 2 quarts low and . I was pushing the engine in a street race. at first the engine started to rattle. next day I put oil in and started it up and the rattle was still there, the engine was torn down and the number 3 rod bearing had spun, and I have had this happen on more than 3 other engines in 3 other cars, but not all at the same time.Quote:
Originally posted by erik erikson
The Chevy small block can't handle running low on oil as well as a Chrysler or a Ford engine?The Chevy is prone to spin bearings?The Chevy's main weakness is its oiling system?How did you come to all these conclusion's?
im not putting the chevy down. just they tend to have this problem. but thats not saying ford and chrysler dont have there flaws, because they do. as do every automobile on the planet.
I was just pointing out what I think is chevy's weekness.
Sounds to me like you where to tight on your rod bearing clearance's.Quote:
Originally posted by fordsfairlane
because back when I used to chase after girls I would sometimes forget to check oil in my chevy. once I let the oil get 2 quarts low and . I was pushing the engine in a street race. at first the engine started to rattle. next day I put oil in and started it up and the rattle was still there, the engine was torn down and the number 3 rod bearing had spun, and I have had this happen on more than 3 other engines in 3 other cars, but not all at the same time.
im not putting the chevy down. just they tend to have this problem. but thats not saying ford and chrysler dont have there flaws, because they do. as do every automobile on the planet.
I was just pointing out what I think is chevy's weekness.
nystreetscened,
I didn't know you had the engine sitting up that long. What might be wrong then is you spun a cam bearing on initial start-up. Might want to empty the oil out of the pan and check for metal. My engine had set up for some time before I started it and the same thing happened. I spun the 3 center cam bearings, my oil pressure did just like yours it was around 40 cold and would go to about nothing once it warmed up. Drained the oil and saw bearing material. Pulled the engine and pan and the center cam bearing was sitting in the pan. Had the block cam journels cut for oversize cam bearings and had to get a new cam as the journels on it were tore up. I had even primed the oil pump really well before starting it up but it didn't help.
I hope you don't have the same problem.
Fordsfairlane,
If you ran the engine low by two quarts then you only had three left in teh pan. If you turn the motor up at higher rpms you will run out of il in the pan and of course something has to give. The small block chevy doesn't have a weak oiling system.
I don't recall ever having the bottom end go on a SBC. Pistons, now, thats another story. And cam lobes.
This may be a reach, and I sure don't want to insult you, but have you had the rocker covers off of that engine? Sometimes if an engine is really badly sludged up, the oil return holes can be plugged up to the extent that oil can't get back to the pan, at least it can't get back fast enough. A lot of oil will pool up on top of the heads. That could account for the dry dipstick. You can get lifter noise and smoke.
A complete rebuild is probably the only cure.
Jim
I have had the valve covers off. The engine has been well maintaned as there is no sludge or crust on top of the heads or in the valley. Some one I work with mentioned that my intake may be leaking and that is a possability since I did have the intake off, it probably needs to be retorqued.
you could be right.Quote:
Originally posted by erik erikson
Sounds to me like you where to tight on your rod bearing clearance's.
I sould be truethfull, the engines I was talking about were from my teen years and back then I had no respect for a car, not like I do know. meaning that back then I would run an engine into the ground for a quik fix of speed.
I have destroyed many engines back then
my first was a 351c that was in a 76 ford elite.
2nd was a 440 74 dodge pickup.
3rd was a 350 in a 72 chevy pickup went through 2 engines
4th a 350 in a 84 chevy montecarlo.went through 2 engine rebuilds
5th was a 71 olds delta 88 , 455 rocket, actually only wrecked this car
and many more after these. but im sure many of you have destroyed cars , that you wished you didnt now.