Thanks then guy's I really appreciate it. I think I might just go with the 454. 502 is too much and not worth it. I am hoping I can find a 454 that is cheap because these crate engines are way too much for me at the moment. I know I have 4500 bucks only but still, I still need to do other things before I put the engine in. I am looking through some classifieds but of course everytime I find a 454 it's too damn late and they are sold already...