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    My turn------
    You guys are misreading the bearing clearance specs--it is no .005-.021 but .0005-.0021----------------
    And if you do have .006 you are way out of tolerance!!!!!!

    AAnd as far as toe stomping-------I guess I would be called an old or old time engine builder---we never scotchbrighted bearings back THEN---because scotchbrite hadn't been invented yet---however we did sand bearings with 400 wet or dry paper because we would then have a consistant pattern in the bearing surface so we could tell how much/where/how the bearing/crank journal oil supply was working---The surface of the bearing show never touch the crank as it should ride on the oil film and thats where oil wt., flow, clearance,pressure all come into play.

    And for those back THEN who didn't like Valvoline because it foamed and others didn't---if your oil foams its the oil system causing it, not the oil and an oil that foams will have more surface tension than non filming oils so it will protect bearing/crank , along with other parts better.

    These days with the non foaming syn lt weight oils the bearing clearances get more crital , especially with alum engines, however that old OLDSMOBILE could probably run on the old grease from the local drive in resturant

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    Well, I only scotchbrited them after I took my belt sander to them first. JUST KIDDING !!!!!!! Actually, all I did was spray them with WD40 and LIGHTLY, wipe the surface with a scotchbrite........VERY lightly. The reason I did that was I went on line and read a lot of engine building tech articles and that is what they said to do. I didn't take anything off or scratch the dullness, but I'm glad you guys mentioned that these new type bearings are meant to leave alone. We won't do that to the rod bearings. Thanks.

    Jerry, yep, you are right about the .0005 thing, I never was good with decimals and am never sure how many zeros go in there. It was actually .0006. After we got the mains torqued the crank spun nice and free, and we could also see all the welding the balancing shop did to get it right. They said the crank was really out. All the shop did was polish the crank as it never needed turned, and we went back with the same std size bearings that we had in it originally. We always had 50 psi oil pressure, at least that part of the build was ok.

    Thanks again for the tips, guys.

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    why would you go online for that B.S engine building crap don???? when i could of filled you up here . yep i knew what you meant ..0006 i think if you had .006 your plastigage would of rolled out and landed on the floor or go to blue plastigage or run down to the 7/11 and pick up some bubble gum and used that for gage stock but then i understand not trusting what one guy post s on here
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    IC2 i know what bearing s he has i sold them to him i use over 4 makes of bearings at the shop some machined finsh .some use indium .silicon bi metal.tri metal, alum .i not going to write a book here but i do more bearings in the year then i care to think about and not all in moms and pops car but stuff getting the snot kick out of it and 300+ shot of Nos so hi Hp engines not like 500HP but way past that . not as old as Jerry but not a kid
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    Quote Originally Posted by cffisher View Post
    Are there realy people older than Jerry
    well he is as old as my mom not to old . i have to say that because i am getting old .some times i have a hell of a time keeping up with mom when she on a mission
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    Sooooooooooooo,if Jerry is older than me,that means it adds days for me???.Hummm.Naw never mind.
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    Pat, I figured I bothered you guys enough with questions, so I read a few articles in magazines and went on line to fill in some gaps. Ok, while we are talking, we have never degreed a cam, I have a dial indicator and need to get the wheel. What tips do you guys have there.

    What confuses me is, when you find out the sprocket is out a few degrees, or whatever, what do you do, drill the mounting holes bigger and put in offset bushings>

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    Quote Originally Posted by Itoldyouso View Post
    Pat, I figured I bothered you guys enough with questions, so I read a few articles in magazines and went on line to fill in some gaps. Ok, while we are talking, we have never degreed a cam, I have a dial indicator and need to get the wheel. What tips do you guys have there.

    What confuses me is, when you find out the sprocket is out a few degrees, or whatever, what do you do, drill the mounting holes bigger and put in offset bushings>

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    i could not post last night then site went down.well any way isky sell s off set bushings kit part #ofb-16 olds 1949&upV8 other may sell a bushing kit like MrGasket . or buy a chain set with added lower key ways they make them .No scotch brite needed in the installation
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    Written better than I could:

    How to Degree A Camshaft: Engine Builder
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    Thanks, I'll read that. Just hope they don't say to use a scotchbrite.

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    I scotch brite the ramp of the cam lobe till I get the timing we want!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jerry clayton View Post
    I scotch brite the ramp of the cam lobe till I get the timing we want!!!!!!
    Isn't it easier to do the timing gear teeth? At least you don't have to chance gouging the cam bearings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jerry clayton View Post
    I scotch brite the ramp of the cam lobe till I get the timing we want!!!!!!
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