I know a few years ago when they first came out the got a real bad wrap as cheap copies. Will I know they are still cheaper copies but has anyone ran on a dyno? Whats the quality like? Are they worth the money? Thanks
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I know a few years ago when they first came out the got a real bad wrap as cheap copies. Will I know they are still cheaper copies but has anyone ran on a dyno? Whats the quality like? Are they worth the money? Thanks
the intakes look real good, but if i were atempting to get 600 horses into a vega, i would go with an already proven set up. i would use a company that matches thier intakes to trier heads, like a brodix intake with a set of brodix heads. or dart on dart, edelbrock on edelbrock. these companies designed thier heads and intakes as a unit. sure they are probably very close to one another, but when you are buying power you might as well buy what was mated together as a unit.
Well, they're a copy of an existing intake...How good a copy, who knows??? If I were trying to go fast in a drag car powered by a small block, don't think the intake is one of the places I would try to save money.... The copies are probably fine on the street, but like Mooneyes I'd go with the proven products for a drag car...
Depends on who you ask.................if you ask Vic Edelbrock you might have blisters in your ears!:LOL: They are the reason all of his manifolds now have a big "Made in USA" sticker on them.
I'd say they would be fine for a street driven car, for higher demand engine app it's a personal call. They've apparently done very well in the knock off world, and have expanded their line of products to dampers, fuel filters and so on. They had an impressive display at SEMA.
I'm running one on the 350 vortec in my T. Bought it from a vendor at last years Turkey Run, and I couldn't pass up the price (something like $ 120) Seems fine so far, it fit fine and the car runs ( :LOL: ) But if I were looking for real performance I would probably go with one of the old names, as the others have said.
What is funny is that there is a little molded in pad on the intake where it looks like some name was machined off. Made me wonder who else they are building these for.
Don
I would imagine there's one foundry kicking them out for a bunch of the different import names. I know they're not making them for Vic Edelbrock, he's really proud of his foundry!!!!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Itoldyouso
Yeah the little pad is where the name Edelbrock was when they used his manifold to make there molds from,.....:CRY:
Thats the part I dont get though. Every one says they are cheap no good copies, BUT if its a copy down to the pad for the name shouldn't everything thing else be the same as the name brand?????? I was reading that this brand came out due to some one else letting their patent run out, dont know how true this is though. It also said that the intake are made with USA material but are manufactured else where. I know they have been out for a few years now ,I wonder if they have perfected their copy? I am all 100% for USA brand but also dont like being gouged just for some ones name....... If its a copy then all things should be identical except one has Eddies name and the other doesnt. I am 90 % for a name brand intake then see the price and then theres the 10% that says HMMMM just for the name.... Some of you guys wont like this but I also bought some fabricated valve covers (e-pay)and for the EXACT same pieces minus the NAME the price was 80 dollars as compared to 250-350 dollars for a name.
I was looking at the hurricane intake for sbc . I am sure some one has ran on a dyno.
The biggest problem we have seen is the port alignment is off a long ways.
If you have to correct this problem then you where money ahead buying the Edelbrock intake.
just go get a holley strip dominator part number 300-25 :3dSMILE: 183 brand new
I used the Performer RPM copy on my sons truck and it seems to do great. I think we paid $140 for the polished version.
Well in their notes they state that extra material is left for you to port to what ever you need. Is this what you are talking about? I am sure I am going to go with a name brand ,but for some thing that will be ported extinsively maybe its not such a bad idea. All the edelbrocks and holleys I have purchased in the past have needed a lot of porting also. I would still like to see if any one has compared "identical" intakes to see what they came up with.Quote:
Originally Posted by erik erikson
GASSER I like that intake but I think I need the power band to start some where closer to 3000-3500. Do you think it will work?
I agree 100% you should definitely not go wrong with matched parts.Quote:
Originally Posted by mooneye777
yes it would work bigtruckdriver
No,I was talking about side to side.Quote:
Originally Posted by BigTruckDriver
Think I'd really rather send my money to Vic in California then I would some knock off company in China or wherever the heck they are made.... Whatever manifold you get, there's probably a dozen of them for sale on eBay, Craig's list, Racing Junk, and a bunch of the other used part sellers. Hard to complain about jobs being exported overseas and a multitude of other problems buy buying the knock offs. I guess I just decided to make a stand somewhere... Hard to avoid not buying any imported stuff, but I believe I'll stick to supporting the US manufacturer's on Hot Rod parts, especially companies, like Edelbrock, Weiand, Isky and some of the other old, established companies that started the whole Hot Rod thing...... I guess 1 manifold won't have much effect on the trade deficit and heck, it's somebody else's problem anyway, right?????
Well Denny, I am just happy to know you wear pajamas.:whacked: :LOL:Quote:
Originally Posted by DennyW
footed pajamas?
I would love to see Denny in footed pajamas.:LOL:Quote:
Originally Posted by gassersrule_196
made in the USA is great if you can find it ?we were sold out a long time ago there is not to many things not made in other contries that can do it cheaper or better ? some can do both .the intake in question are ok. i have used them if they were total junk they would not be in business and opening up there product line . there is plenty usa companies that out source and the ones that do not .may not have many workers that have a green card as long as someone wants something cheaper there will be someone willing to make it and someone to buy it
i would pass:DQuote:
Originally Posted by erik erikson
Thats where I think 9 out of 10 of the negative answers stem from about the intakes....... Why does it cost 100 dollars to get it from the other side of the world and 300 to get it from our own back yard????Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave Severson
[QUOTE=DennyW]I still have the old style one piece that I wear when it gets really cold. You know the ones where there is 3 buttons in the back for the out house. :LOL: :LOL: Bright !!Red G THANKS THAT NOW IS BURNT IN THE BACK OF WHAT IS LEFT OF MY MIND:LOL:
Is this the norm for finish on the Holley? Thing looks bad IMO, it is used though....Even though its used I dont think being used will cause pits and all the other crap in the lower section of it.....
Looks like it has been terribly neglected and ignored, then somebody sandblasted it and is trying to peddle it!!!! Are the inside water passages as hammered as the exterior? If so, I wouldn't touch it with a 10 foot pole!!!! If the water passages are good, the exterior damage is just cosmetic and it'll still work just fine.
Maybe the intakes quality is not so bad after all:whacked: . Heres some foreign made parts STAMP with USA "quality". Got this from another site.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave Severson
NO wonder that China is now one of the fastest growing economies. Crap' Our food, pet food, electronics, car parts and who knows what is now made there.
I am sure you all will think of hundreds of products.
Eagle = Forged in China w/Chineese Steel - Machined in USA
Scat = = Forged in China w/Chineese Steel - Machined in USA
Cat = = Forged in China w/Chineese Steel - Machined in USA
Ohio Cranks = Foreign Forged with UNK Steel.
Maybe you all will wish to continue this and contribute. Maybe we all should check it each day for surprises and maybe we can all do a tiny part to bringing USA of American Money to stay at home.
From Hardcore aka Bill Mitchell
None of this should come as a surprise:
Eaton Valves=China
King Brgs=Israel
Sealed Power Valves=S.Africa
Mahle Pistons=Mexico/China
Manley Rods=Israel
S.I. Valves=China
Eagle/Scat=China
Ferreas Valves=Argentina
Speed-Pro Race Valves=Brazil
Zoom Clutches=China
Delco Parts=Singapore
K-B Pistons=Mexico
Callies=Japan
And the list goes on and on!!
Oh ya didnt see Edelbrock,:LOL: YET!
A MOPAR guy I work with said the other day he had ordered a brand new 440 cu in engine block for his race car from a company that was having them cast in China. Sad.....
this is off abit the callies cranks are made in use but they have aline of cranks and rods that are from over seas the ohio crank is from china but the new 8 plate may be from unk the other cranks are not all machine in the usa like cat scat eagle .but this would have alot to do with what they think falls under machine in the usa. i use the best parts for the money and the king brg are very good i do not care where they come from .alot of this has to do with epa and other groups that do not want this stuff made in the usa .Quote:
Originally Posted by BigTruckDriver
A lot of it is from companies outsourcing the parts in favor of cheap labor and doing business in a country that does not do their best to make manufacturing as costly as possible and a government that favors importing everything we use!!!!! Everyone wants to be a rah rah flag waver until it effects their checkbook then the foreign made crap is fine!!!!! Don't blame the US manufacturers, blame the US government that has them handcuffed!!!! Money seems to be the only concern these days. Things like integrity and accountability are terribly out of fashion....