How Dangerous is Drag racing

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Originally Posted by Henry Rifle

Amazing. One little click can shorten a thread by half. ;)

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your welcome :)

This thread gets my vote for having the idiot posts of the year.

Folks, this is a topic on which few if any folk will agree, as i said earlier i have been drag racing, predominantly 1/4 in my own rides since July 5, 1963. During these decades i have and yet do participate in street races for money. For the past 25 years i have managed to win far more than i have lost in ALL my racing both at the track AND on the street.
I'm supposing i was indoctrinated into the street race scene differently than most it seems. My indoctrination was by my father, uncles, an aunt and a couple of elder 1st cousins.
1st i was taught that u never over estimate urself or under estimate the competition. Nedxt i was taught the the primary criteria for a streety race was to have same occur on as off peak a traffic road as possible and at a time when said traffic was off peak anyway. Also a place with plenty of stopping room, no pot holes. Next i was taught the there are some folk u do not race no matter what. Such as folkl who appear to b drunk or high and or beligerant. You ALWAYS check the safty equipment of the opponents ride at least visually as well as the tires and their condition. The goal is to have a race in which should the worst occur only urself ur opponent and ur rides are in jepordy. I find the very best way to insure this is to do as many of ur street races on week nights late, after setting same up by phone or in person at either ur place, the opponents or some nuetral place. Next i find that u limit the size of the bets to something reasonable for a number of reasons. 1st of all, BIG bets attract a LOT OF ATTENTION as well as totally uninvolved spectator crowds no matter when they go off and said crowds are predominantly wanna B's who actuall are no competition for either person but clown all the way to and from the race as if tryin to impress the racers. ext, NO ONE LIKES TO LOOSE, and many if not most folk have some type of excuse for their loss. These issues do not have much gravity if the bet is 25-100 bucks or so but iof the bet is BIG say in the many hundreds or thousands, these excuses grow LARGE and VERY important to the looser and this can and often does lead to animosity and such that also attracts a lot of uneeded and unwanted attention.
If one follows these easy rules when engageing in a street race the only policed who are goin to catch you are those who are, have been or have family member who are or have been street racers themselves cause these are the only bofficers who are going to know when, let alone where to look for ya.
If by chance u are busted b stand up and honest with the officers and do not insult their intelligence or try to run, after all the officer is doin exactly what ur tax dollars are paying him to do and YOU should have been more carefull in the planning and execution of ur race. Better u try to develope a rapore with the officer on some common level, preferably something with as much humor as possible injected. You were out there breaking the law. don't suddenly turn coward and try to not be responsible for urself and ur actions.
In my years of racing the streets in many places thruout the mid north, central and southern part of the country i have been busted dead to rights before, during and after a street race. The worst i have ever gotten was an unsafe start or speeding ticket and an admonishment. Once when busted lined up for a street race, after conversing with the officer for a few, my opponent and i were told to DO THE RACE, the looser gets the citation. Another time when busted i amiably asked the officer if it was ok to collect my winnings from the opponent, his reply was " yea, ur gonna need it to help pay this ticket im about to give ya". Yet again, having had a flat on a slick after a race that left me still on the scene when the police arrived, i was allowed to tow my car home at my own expense and given an admonishment in spite of the fact it was OBVIOUS what i was there for, especially sporting a set of 29 x 11 x 15 MT Slicks and a 3" exhaust on a 69 Stage 2 400 4spd Gran Sport Buick Skylark.
As i said previously, most of the posts to this thread are by folk who actually have no clue what real street racing entails, if they have ever seen a REAL street racer they hadn't the 1st clue what they were looking at. Most equate a street racer with the idiots depicted in movies such as the Fast and the Furious which i call the fumbling and the foolish, or the Biker boys, which as an avid biker who also races his bike i call the evil kinivel(sp) wanna B's. I leave all the tricks and stunts on bikes up to Super Dave.
The rest of the poster to this thread are just haters who haven't the nerve or expertise to successfully race the street so they hope to spin everything in a manner that covers that fact and makes them out to somehow b better than folk who race the street. The bottom line is that if YOU OPERATE ANY HIGH PEFORMANCE ride on the streets u have and will race it on the street even if u only race urself and if ya say different ur a damn liar and a poor one at that. So u can talk ur azz off otherwise, it just doesn't fly or track.

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Originally Posted by MrWizard455

.....The bottom line is that if YOU OPERATE ANY HIGH PEFORMANCE ride on the streets u have and will race it on the street even if u only race urself and if ya say different ur a damn liar and a poor one at that. So u can talk ur azz off otherwise, it just doesn't fly or track.

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If I stretch my english far enough I think you do have a point in there. But with that said and after suffering through your delivery on this and in other threads, you also really have proven yourself to be quite the idiot as well.

Kitz

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Originally Posted by MrWizard455

Folks, this is a topic on which few if any folk will agree, as i said earlier i have been drag racing, predominantly 1/4 in my own rides since July 5, 1963. During these decades i have and yet do participate in street races for money. For the past 25 years i have managed to win far more than i have lost in ALL my racing both at the track AND on the street.
I'm supposing i was indoctrinated into the street race scene differently than most it seems. My indoctrination was by my father, uncles, an aunt and a couple of elder 1st cousins.
1st i was taught that u never over estimate urself or under estimate the competition. Nedxt i was taught the the primary criteria for a streety race was to have same occur on as off peak a traffic road as possible and at a time when said traffic was off peak anyway. Also a place with plenty of stopping room, no pot holes. Next i was taught the there are some folk u do not race no matter what. Such as folkl who appear to b drunk or high and or beligerant. You ALWAYS check the safty equipment of the opponents ride at least visually as well as the tires and their condition. The goal is to have a race in which should the worst occur only urself ur opponent and ur rides are in jepordy. I find the very best way to insure this is to do as many of ur street races on week nights late, after setting same up by phone or in person at either ur place, the opponents or some nuetral place. Next i find that u limit the size of the bets to something reasonable for a number of reasons. 1st of all, BIG bets attract a LOT OF ATTENTION as well as totally uninvolved spectator crowds no matter when they go off and said crowds are predominantly wanna B's who actuall are no competition for either person but clown all the way to and from the race as if tryin to impress the racers. ext, NO ONE LIKES TO LOOSE, and many if not most folk have some type of excuse for their loss. These issues do not have much gravity if the bet is 25-100 bucks or so but iof the bet is BIG say in the many hundreds or thousands, these excuses grow LARGE and VERY important to the looser and this can and often does lead to animosity and such that also attracts a lot of uneeded and unwanted attention.
If one follows these easy rules when engageing in a street race the only policed who are goin to catch you are those who are, have been or have family member who are or have been street racers themselves cause these are the only bofficers who are going to know when, let alone where to look for ya.
If by chance u are busted b stand up and honest with the officers and do not insult their intelligence or try to run, after all the officer is doin exactly what ur tax dollars are paying him to do and YOU should have been more carefull in the planning and execution of ur race. Better u try to develope a rapore with the officer on some common level, preferably something with as much humor as possible injected. You were out there breaking the law. don't suddenly turn coward and try to not be responsible for urself and ur actions.
In my years of racing the streets in many places thruout the mid north, central and southern part of the country i have been busted dead to rights before, during and after a street race. The worst i have ever gotten was an unsafe start or speeding ticket and an admonishment. Once when busted lined up for a street race, after conversing with the officer for a few, my opponent and i were told to DO THE RACE, the looser gets the citation. Another time when busted i amiably asked the officer if it was ok to collect my winnings from the opponent, his reply was " yea, ur gonna need it to help pay this ticket im about to give ya". Yet again, having had a flat on a slick after a race that left me still on the scene when the police arrived, i was allowed to tow my car home at my own expense and given an admonishment in spite of the fact it was OBVIOUS what i was there for, especially sporting a set of 29 x 11 x 15 MT Slicks and a 3" exhaust on a 69 Stage 2 400 4spd Gran Sport Buick Skylark.
As i said previously, most of the posts to this thread are by folk who actually have no clue what real street racing entails, if they have ever seen a REAL street racer they hadn't the 1st clue what they were looking at. Most equate a street racer with the idiots depicted in movies such as the Fast and the Furious which i call the fumbling and the foolish, or the Biker boys, which as an avid biker who also races his bike i call the evil kinivel(sp) wanna B's. I leave all the tricks and stunts on bikes up to Super Dave.
The rest of the poster to this thread are just haters who haven't the nerve or expertise to successfully race the street so they hope to spin everything in a manner that covers that fact and makes them out to somehow b better than folk who race the street. The bottom line is that if YOU OPERATE ANY HIGH PEFORMANCE ride on the streets u have and will race it on the street even if u only race urself and if ya say different ur a damn liar and a poor one at that. So u can talk ur azz off otherwise, it just doesn't fly or track.

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WOW...dream on LMFAO

Man, the story just isn't right!!!! It just isn't right, I tell ya!!!!!! Fairy tales are ALWAYS supposed to start with "Once upon a time".!!!!!!!

I have several points in the post, thanx for the note of A as in one of them.
From the feed back to the posts i have made on this thread, many of my points, as is the case in the other threads you alude to having suffered through, and thus forming the opinion that I'm an idiot, have stepped on some very sensitive toes, and hit some pin head nail heads square on the head, since we're getting into name calling again.
Aparantly some of you watch and put entirely too much stock in movies and TV, books and magazines. You mistakenly assume that this all translates into knowledge. A tip, KNOWLEDGE is born only of experience, prior to that u have only thought and considerations, opinions, which, as i stated, are like A-holes, everyone has one and they only work for them.
That said expliains why so many of u become animostic when confronted with someone who speaks what they KNOW as opposed to You speaking what you think.
The end game is, as i also said, IF YOU OPERATE OR HAVE OPERATED ANY TYPE OF HIGH PERFORMANCE RIDE ON THE STREET YOU HAVE AND WILL RACE IT THERE EVEN IF ONLY AGAINST URSELF. This makes it entirely hipocritical for u to post up in forums like this as if ur somehow better than someone who only does the same thing YOU DO, but have the nerve to stand up for it and admit responsibility.
What i say about street racing is not an excuse for me to street race, there is NO EXCUSE for breaking the law. Besides, i don't need an excuse or justification, certainly not to any of you, i do not do excuses, i find it easier to make a way than an excuse.
I have no issue with someone disagreeing with me, or even disliking me or what i say. However, u become disrespectful and beligerant with the name calling and insults with me and u get ur feelings hurt when i respond in kind, go whining and crying.
Consider the old adage that " If you can't stand the heat, stay out the kitchen", or don't pitch if ya can't stand to catch.

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Originally Posted by MrWizard455

I have several points in the post, thanx for the note of A as in one of them.
From the feed back to the posts i have made on this thread, many of my points, as is the case in the other threads you alude to having suffered through, and thus forming the opinion that I'm an idiot, have stepped on some very sensitive toes, and hit some pin head nail heads square on the head, since we're getting into name calling again.
Aparantly some of you watch and put entirely too much stock in movies and TV, books and magazines. You mistakenly assume that this all translates into knowledge. A tip, KNOWLEDGE is born only of experience, prior to that u have only thought and considerations, opinions, which, as i stated, are like A-holes, everyone has one and they only work for them.
That said expliains why so many of u become animostic when confronted with someone who speaks what they KNOW as opposed to You speaking what you think.
The end game is, as i also said, IF YOU OPERATE OR HAVE OPERATED ANY TYPE OF HIGH PERFORMANCE RIDE ON THE STREET YOU HAVE AND WILL RACE IT THERE EVEN IF ONLY AGAINST URSELF. This makes it entirely hipocritical for u to post up in forums like this as if ur somehow better than someone who only does the same thing YOU DO, but have the nerve to stand up for it and admit responsibility.
What i say about street racing is not an excuse for me to street race, there is NO EXCUSE for breaking the law. Besides, i don't need an excuse or justification, certainly not to any of you, i do not do excuses, i find it easier to make a way than an excuse.
I have no issue with someone disagreeing with me, or even disliking me or what i say. However, u become disrespectful and beligerant with the name calling and insults with me and u get ur feelings hurt when i respond in kind, go whining and crying.
Consider the old adage that " If you can't stand the heat, stay out the kitchen", or don't pitch if ya can't stand to catch.

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On the web there is also a adage........."some of the most important posts you make are the ones you don't make".

The length of the posts you make<of course can take my suggestion or not>seems to kill any point you are trying to make.If your position to you is that insecure by making it longer doesn't hide that fact.In fact it makes it even more clear.

I believe a Moderator here has spoke to you about this issue before and advised you about it,yet you still continue.

So you are you and even through members here have told you what they think and a Moderator has giving you his best advise,might be the best solution for you to just move on??.Just using some deductive logic.

And please,please,please...........do some reflective thinking before saying anything else.

Thanks,

Gary

Mr Mustang/Bill
PLEASE LOCK THIS THREAD - it has gone on too long. And the beat? It still continues ad nauseum.

The Queen is sobbing and almost hysterical. Her language has been slaughtered with a dull axe.

"A wise man speaks when he has something to say.......

A fool speaks when he needs to say something"

My Daddy always said, "An empty barrel makes the most noise!" nuff said!