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    You didn't mention if this was an all of a sudden thing, something gradual over time, or ?

    Normally for not self centering I would suggest you have your caster checked, If it's always been like that it's probably not adjusted correctly. If it's all of a sudden inspect for worn radius rod bushings, a failing bracket, bent axle, all the front end components actually.
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    Rack and pinion has been done on straight axle cars, but more fail than succeed at getting them to work right IMO. Problem is, if you mount the rack to the frame as the car bounces up and down it forces the spindle arms in and out, effectively steering the car (bump steer). If you mount it to the axle you eliminate that problem, but you add a bunch of unsprung weight to the car. The racks also don't look real good sitting back there.

    A properly installed conventional steering box, in conjunction with a panhard bar and proper geometry usually will produce a car that goes straight down the road and that will steer like it should.

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    When I read your post the first thing that popped into my head was that you need more caster, as Bob said assuming everything is tight. I would add, your caster angle needs to be relative to the ground, not to the chassis. According to an article in R&C http://www.rodandcustommagazine.com/...ils/index.html stock caster was three to four degrees, but with big & littles a degree or two is right. More caster = more stability, but also eats into your turning radius - look at rail dragsters or a radical chopper.
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    If ya want a rack, slap a Maval Unisteer 1/2 rack on it and be done with it.
    Have done over 30 of them in the last 6 years.,you'll never go back to a vega style.
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    Thanks for the replies. It's been that way since I bought it a couple years and a couple thousand miles ago. It does have a Panhard bar and I added a So Cal steering dampner. Not too long after getting the car I changed the wheels and tire to a big and little and don't recall it making any difference. If you're sitting in the car and not moving, there's about 1/4 turn play in the gear box before there is any wheel movement. My Mazda3 has zero movement. I'll check the castor but I feel that is too much play in the steering box.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DanM View Post
    Thanks for the replies. It's been that way since I bought it a couple years and a couple thousand miles ago. It does have a Panhard bar and I added a So Cal steering dampner. Not too long after getting the car I changed the wheels and tire to a big and little and don't recall it making any difference. If you're sitting in the car and not moving, there's about 1/4 turn play in the gear box before there is any wheel movement. My Mazda3 has zero movement. I'll check the castor but I feel that is too much play in the steering box.
    Way to much play in the box.
    Crank down on the adjuster on the box to lock it, then backoff 1/8 turn.
    If that don't solve the problem, box is junk.
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    Hey Don! got a question about the half rack. I am installing one on my 32 to replace the vega box,i mounted to the vega mount, it is not parallel to the tie rod or on the same plane,should they be? I would have to move the rack 3/4" forward and down 1 and 1/2 inches. thanks Pete
    Quote Originally Posted by DA34GUY View Post
    If ya want a rack, slap a Maval Unisteer 1/2 rack on it and be done with it.
    Have done over 30 of them in the last 6 years.,you'll never go back to a vega style.

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