I am with ya dave ,there was a big thread on another forum the other day about these people who drive thier cars and bicycle to the back roads with no shoulder and proceed to ride there like cars will not crush them and the road was only made for them.
I have no problem with the real bicycle ridrs that go acroos country and have no chioce but to use a 2 lane with no shoulder from time to time as thats the only way they have to go sometimes .
But these weekend warrior types that purposly go out to the 2 lanes with no shoulder ,especially out here in cali where millions have been spent to give them a safe place to ride and choose to ride there are intolerable. Many head on car to car and car to bicycle accidents happen from this.......I guess some people just think that no matter how inconsiderate or dangerous something is ,they have the right to do it.
I dont feel sorry for them at all ,when they end up in the ditch or all in a pile.....I dont wish anyone to get hurt or killed ,but these people are just asking for it do to thier actions.........END RANT. **)