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I am looking for a drawing for a 32 frame with enough dimensions to build from, I want to build a completely stainlees steel frame with a custom IFS front And Jag rear. So far all that I have found are hole location drawings. If any one has any info it would be very welcomed!!
The common drawings like the one sold on Ebay and the ones on the Wescott site are basically the location and size of the holes in the frame. If you need the channel cross sections, such is not readily available....we have searched for three years for such and had to do our own CAD files (which are not true 1932 rails). The frame manufacturers have patterns for their plasma or laser cutters that would give you the dimensions that you need but you probably wont get them to give them to you. You might get a frame mfg to cut you a set of rails from stainless....if you really need them.....the best question is "why stainless?" Have you researched the strength of stainless vs normal steel? The cost? The weight? The weldability? If you want to do stainless for appearance sake, you might look at coatings to achieve the look at a lesser cost.
Good luck
mike in tucson
He is asking this same question everywhere ...Quote:
Originally Posted by 1923sst
like here ...
http://www.hotrodders.com/forum/buil...ame-98511.html
:HMMM:
Just took a look at your T bucket with SS suspension and frame. Absolutely gorgeous workmanship. You certainly do know how to work with stainless. Why don't you post some pictures of the T bucket on here for us??
Good luck with the Deuce. I'm sure it will be equally spectacular.
Don
It looks to me like you know what you are doing.
Wescott's site is about as good as you'll get unless you can find a frame to photo and measure. Duece posted this on the HotRodders board and it hasn't changed since then...
Knowing all of the dimensions they give you, you should be able to extrapolate anything they don't call out.
http://www.wescottsauto.com/pdf2/FR-4.pdf
Mark
Why Stainless?
1) Because it doesn't rot (true for 300 series or austenitic)
2) It has comparable strength to standard framing steels. And much increase ultimate strain to failure generally. Young's Modulus and density about the same as carbon steel.
3) It looks gorgeous
4) Many austenitics are very weldable; typically 304 used for example
4) Did I mention it doesn't rot!?
Why not stainless?
1) It is more expensive to buy
2) It is more expensive to machine in some cases
3) Threads and Fasteners in stainless tend to gall easily
4) It has a much higher thermal expansion coefficient than carbon steel, like 9.5 to 6
Personally I like it. Kitz
I don't know if this will help you or not. It's info on the original 1932. Maybe you can get an engineer to scale the drawing for you.
http://ford.tocmp.com/manuals/Ford/1932/index.htm
Pat
Might try a phone call to America Stamping (in Mississippi) and see if they could do you up some stainless rails.....
That would be my recommendation as well. Building a frame with compound curves would be a real PIA.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave Severson
Did you see the work on his bucket? I don't think he will have too much trouble.:LOL: :LOL: :LOL: :LOL: :LOL: :LOL: :LOL:
Don
I'm going to take the liberty of posting some more pictures of his T bucket on here. ( I just BORROWED them :cool: :cool: )
Really some beautiful craftsmanship.
Don
I agree that this man's skill level is pretty impressive. But duplicating a '32 Ford frame would be very hard based on measurements alone. My advice would be to buy a set of American Stamping Company frame rails, use them to build a jig for the stainless ones, and then sell the ASC rails when the stainless ones are built. A set of new frame rails should not be hard to sell.Quote:
Originally Posted by Itoldyouso
And all of his chassis work is with straight metal ... no compound curves ... or revels.Quote:
Originally Posted by rumrumm
And stainless is difficult to shape and bend in a thickness that would support the loads that a frame needs to do ... :D
I agree that a '32 is a much more complex frame that a T bucket. Evidently he wants to take on this challenge to make his '32 different from the norm. In the final analysis, he may not be able to duplicate all the classic '32 reveals, etc. but maybe he can get close and do a modernized version.
I was like you guys, when I saw his original post my question was "why would you want to do this?" After seeing the work he has done though, if anybody has a shot at it, it would be him. He's got more ambition than I would ever have to tackle something of this magnitude. :D :D :D
Good thing he isn't a jeweler, or the thing would be gold plated.:LOL: :LOL:
Don
Just a liitle off topic, but as an automotive history buff I thought I'd put this info up for those of you that haven't seen it before. It might be of interest to those who are concerned about the ability to form compound curves in stainless steel. Sure we're talking thickness, and stress bearing issue differences, as well as tooling capabilities, but the technology is likely available for those committed enough.
http://www.alleghenyludlum.com/pages...inlesscars.asp
Bob, dont forget about the Delorean.....well, OK, you can forget it.
mike in tucson
Yeah Mike, but I was thinking of REAL cars!:eek:
If we're going to talk about other body panels there was also the roof on the '57 Eldorado Broughams