Thread: Money to finish my '32 Ford???
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09-26-2006 12:11 PM #1
I can come up the hill and give you a hand ,no need for shop to do that work you listed,maybe the pinion angle if thats not already set,but the rest is easy stuff,unless its a space and time factor involved.Puting a windshield in is usually better than trying to get one out intact.Lights ,wire and guages ,fuel line is easy stuff.I just picked up a fuel line bender for my project I would be glad to let you use or help.I also have a engine lift and load leveler for engine installation.Then all you would need to do is get a driveshaft made,but there are a couple of good places here close. Just let me know.
Its gunna take longer than u thought and its gunna cost more too(plan ahead!)
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09-26-2006 10:01 PM #2
....Thanks all, Yes the car is already there. I talked to the builder today & he's going to finish it @ time + materials. He said this would be fairer to me & him. I didn't ask him the hourly rate because origianly I was going to finish the car but changed my mind. I will ask him though..... So I'm cool with that... Shawn I sent you an email. Did you get it??? Thanks a bunch for the offer of help & if you need any help on anything I'm more than willing to help... Bill
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09-27-2006 11:10 AM #3
My e-mail is messed up,you can send a pm on here!! thnx and good luck.Its gunna take longer than u thought and its gunna cost more too(plan ahead!)
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09-27-2006 01:45 PM #4
As everyone has said previously "there are too many variables to accuratel predict'". That being said, hopefully your builder won't scare the life out of you with his build cost, especially since you don't even know what his hourly rate is. A builder near me has a very reasonable rate of $48/hour.. His rate is lower than many. A finished car will run $30k to $50k depending on body style, motor, trans, paint, etc. The hotter, fancier, and prettier it is, look to doubling the range.
Actually I think you're a very lucky person to have someone like shawnlee28 to offer to assist with many of the little assemblies. It can save you a bundle. People with offers like that don't come along often.
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09-28-2006 10:50 AM #5
Not a cheap hobby !!!!
Kinda outa my place but am doing a Brookville '31. Minor differences in body, fair amount for the frame ALL of the work is by me except for uphostery.
A brief rundown on costs(rounded):
Body incl freight 5800
TCI chassis incl freight 6200
Ford crate motor + my mods 3500
TCI trans & converter 900
Steering col & shafting 500
32 gas tank and mod steel 600
Wilwood rear disks 700
Exhaust - incl headers 700
Lokar shifter &e brakes 350
Walker A/C radiator 550
Electric fan 200
A/C (Yep, I know, a roadster) 1100
Street& Perf brackets 600
'32 Grill shell & shell 600
Rootleb hood 500
Wheels & Tires (Billet/Yokos) 1200
Gauges - VDO's 300
Front fenders Wescott 500
Rear fenders - steel 500
Running boards 300
Misc body brackets 200
Windshield w/SS stanchions 600
Upholstery 4000 and climbing
'57 9" Ford diff (incl mods) 500
Paint and supplies 2000
Stainless fasteners & dressup 2500 and climbing
Wiring kit+everything else reqd 850
LeBaron Bonney top irons 450
Glide seats w/foam 600
Drive shaft 500
All A-N fluid systems 1200
Powdercoat frame&misc pcs 500
All of this totals $39,500 and doesn't include some $$$$mistakes and changes in direction of where I want to be. There is nothing exotic here, just, for the most part, all good name brand equipment. To do a '32 with a TCI frame(+$2000) and Brookville body(+$5700), and using the same parts and pieces, you would need to add 7 to 8000 dollars. Phew !!
There are probably 2 to 3000 dollars of items forgotten. But it's a hobby.
At an economical $50/hour, my guess is that if some rod shop were to put all this together and paint it, you would be nudging $75K total for this car.
Dave

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09-28-2006 12:37 PM #6
Thanks Dave, I found that to be useful. For my car;
Body 3800
Cornhusker chassis, Heidts 4 wheel IS incl freight 10500
(includes brake lines, rack, shocks, Wilwood disks, 9” ford 3.50 posi)
Chevy ZZ502/550 + my mods 10500
Electric fuel pump and filters 350
TCI Manual TH400 trans & converter 1250
Steering col & shafting 500
32 gas tank and mod steel 550
Wilwood master cyl 250
Exhaust - incl headers 950
Lokar e brakes 250
AFCO Radiator 450
Trans cooler 150
Spal Electric fan and relay 200
B&M Pro Gate Shifter 250
'32 Grill shell & shell 600
Wheels & Tires (Centerlines/T/As) 850
Gauges – SW Wings 450
Rear spreader SS 200
80 hours Custom machining and fabricating (myself) 0
Windshield w/SS stanchions 600
Teas Bench Seat, Rumble Seats, Panel fabric 1750
Paint and supplies 2000
Stainless fasteners & dressup 2500
Wiring kit+everything else reqd 850
Drive shaft 500
All A-N fluid systems 1200
Total $41,450
The body needs a lot of work and I will paint and panel it myself. I guess I have 600 hours in her right now. Priced at $50/hr plus $10,000 to complete the body work and paint the total becomes $81,450
I like to remind myself why I can't do this thing I love so much for a living
Jon Kitzmiller, MSME, PhD EE, 32 Ford Hiboy Roadster, Cornhusker frame, Heidts IFS/IRS, 3.50 Posi, Lone Star body, Lone Star/Kitz internal frame, ZZ502/550, TH400
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09-28-2006 12:59 PM #7
'Bout right @$75 to $80K to build
I have a most of my receipts and started an Excel spread sheet that someday I'll finish, assuming my tears don't blot all the figures.
Originally Posted by kitz
What you show falls right into the same ballpark within +/-10%. A little more here, and a little less there. Looks like you found an inexpensive body and lost your mind on the chassis. About everthing else falls in line.
This is not a hobby for the faint of heart and penniless (or are trying to raise a family).
When I retired last year, I said to my wife, " Now that I have all kinds of free time,I can finish the car". WRONG, she was hiding a list of honeydoos. It will be done for next summer tho - only needs paint and final assembly.Dave







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